Lindsay Clancy's Prosecutor Said She Resented Her Own Life

**Tony Brueski** (0:01)
This is Hidden Killers Live with Tony Brueski and Robin Dre.

**Robin Dre** (0:08)
Bob Motta is with us today as we continue to break down our conversation about Lindsay Clancy and where this is going to go with a jury, depending on guilty or not guilty by reason of insanity or manslaughter. There's many places where this can land.
You were in that courtroom for quite some time these last few weeks. We saw Lindsay Clancy on our screens. We saw many times where they shut down court because she was getting very emotional and upset and I think understandably so if we're looking at it from an empathetic window to be confronted with these horrific images of what you caused while you were in your state of alleged psychosis. What was she like in that courtroom? We talk about defendants in courtrooms all the time, from Lori Vallow to Corey Richins to Donna Adelson. All of them have their interesting affects and how the jury is receiving them. Bob, how would you say the jury was receiving Lindsay Clancy in that room?

**Bob Motta** (1:11)
It's so hard to read them.
I talked about the one juror that many of my friends in the media are of the mindset was dead set on convicting Lindsay, that she was very pro prosecution in the case. But she was oddly the one who when Lindsay had the two breakdowns the day that they were going through the second and third autopsies of the kids, and they had to stop court a couple of times. She was the only witness who was just without flinching looking at Lindsay the entire time. Like many of the jurors would glance over and then break it off. She was watching her, she had a tissue, and she dabbed her eyes a couple of times, and you don't know what she's feeling.
Is she thinking about the kids?
Is she feeling sympathy for Lindsay? There's many things that could be going through her mind, and it's like everybody who wants to play like they can get a read on what somebody's thinking are full of shit.
I've been trying to do it for 20 years, 20 plus years at trial, and I never got it right. It's like the people that will kill them with kindness, the guy that was always smiling at me when I was arguing or making a point when a cross-examination. I was like, oh, I go back to the table and I'm like, I think that one juror likes me. He smiles. So, and then that would be the guy who was leading the charge for conviction at the end of the day. So you can't really get a sense of it. And I didn't have to be able to read the jurors faces to know how this thing was going to go. I've been saying it since the first time we did a live on this. I am of the mindset that I don't care how many times they try this case. Because of the state of our country, because of the massive divide on people and how they view murder, and in particular, a mother murdering her own children or killing her own children, they are never going to be moved off the sentiment that she needs to be punished to the fullest extent of the law. Whether in a state that had the death penalty, which Massachusetts does not, that they think that she should be put to death in a state where it's life in prison, that that's where she should be. And there's, you're never changing their mind on that. And the same goes for the folks that are like myself and you two, where we believe that something went terribly wrong here, that there's no other explanation but for the fact that she was in a psychotic state when this happened. And for me, I cannot hold somebody criminally responsible if they, their body is basically a puppet to a diseased mind. And it's just a place I'm not willing to go because I have a deep understanding of mental illness. I have a deep understanding of the fact that if something is being done and it's not at your own volition, meaning that you're not the one controlling it, which is so hard for some people to buy into. People are like, I just, I don't, that makes no sense. Like a person that's lived 70 years of their life and never had anything remotely like that. There's never been one minute of my life where I, like I didn't have control of my own senses and my own mind, you know? And they're like, for them, it's impossible for them to get to the point where I can't imagine that being a real thing. It sounds like some movie bullshit.