Lindsay Clancy's Prosecutor Said A Puppet Can't Do WHAT?!

SPEAKER_1 (0:00)

This is The Big Breakdown, a long look back at some of the biggest stories we're covering for you at the Hidden Killers Podcast and True Crime Today. This is Hidden Killers Live with Tony Brueski and Robin Dreeke.

Tony Brueski (0:18)

Well, here we are. We are coming to you in between those moments of closing arguments and then a jury coming back with their decision. That's where we sit as we do this episode today. We're going to be discussing where everything has landed in the Lindsay Clancy trial from the prosecution to the defense. Bob Motta supposedly going to be joining us here very shortly.

We're patiently awaiting Mr. Motta. Bob!

Robin Dreeke (0:52)

Bob!

Tony Brueski (0:53)

We're just going to keep shouting Bob until he shows up. Robin Dreeke is, of course, with me, retired FBI Special Agent, Chief of the Counterintelligence Behavioral Analysis Program.

Robin Dreeke (1:02)

Playing the role of defense attorney today.

Tony Brueski (1:04)

Yes. I said, get out your Sharpie.

Robin Dreeke (1:07)

That's why I got my Bob mustache.

Tony Brueski (1:09)

There we go. Bob, do a Bob stash. I have a Bob stash on when Bob's late. But here we are. We can certainly discuss where we think this has landed. The prosecution laid out their case. Lindsay Clancy's jury started deliberating now today, after five weeks of testimony and over 80 witnesses. Where does it go from here?

We're going to start with the prosecution, although I know the order in which the closing arguments were made happened in the opposite direction. But let's start there.

There was fire with Reddington and we're going to get to Reddington. I feel that when we had the prosecution giving theirs, I wasn't quite feeling fire. I wasn't even quite really feeling like Bunsen burner. I was kind of like those hand warmers you put in your pocket. That's the amount of heat I was feeling in terms of passion for what they were delivering. What's your take, Robin?

Robin Dreeke (2:24)

Yeah.

It's fun, Tony, because we were texting back and forth as we were both watching, both closing by Reddington as well as in the prosecution. For the audience that follows us from the beginning of this and always, you know, the majority of us on the show, we're leaning towards Lindsay's not being guilty by reason of standing or criminally responsible because of the preponderance of what we saw from our optic and lens. But at the same time, being very open to everything we're seeing, critically thinking through it. We'll get to Reddington next. But I'm with you. It was a very lackluster on the emotional side, as I saw from the prosecution standpoint. I thought it lacked conviction comparatively. And I think that's the key point on this one. Because if you looked at the substance of what they were saying, and I was really trying hard to look at it the best I could. And that's why Bob, when he gets here, will be great because he was in the courtroom for all of this.

Tony Brueski (3:18)

He says he's on his way.

Robin Dreeke (3:19)

Good. So sitting there and listening to the content, I thought they delivered accurately from their context and point of view, highlighting their people about why they think she's guilty.

And from there, I set up Bob. There's the Bob. Bob, I was channeling my inner Bob, man.

Tony Brueski (3:41)

We're talking about the prosecution, how it landed. We're going to get to Reddington next, but we're going to start with the prosecution end of things. I had said, Reddington came in with fire. I felt like the heat from the prosecution felt like those hand warmers you get when you go to a game. It's like, they keep you a bit warm, but they certainly as hell are in fire like Reddington. Bob, what was your general take there, being in that courtroom with the closings from the prosecution first?

We have no, we don't have Bob audio.

Robin Dreeke (4:17)

Turn on your sound, Bob.

Bob Motta (4:19)

Sorry, I'm not in an optimal setup, boy.

Jennifer Coffindaffer (4:22)

That looks great. Look at you.

Bob Motta (4:23)

Starlink going, I'm sitting in the back of a Denali and...

Jennifer Coffindaffer (4:28)

It is what it is. Here we go.

Robin Dreeke (4:30)

You've only been there for five weeks, Bob. It's all right.

Tony Brueski (4:33)

I'm in the van down by the river.

Robin Dreeke (4:36)

Thank you, Bob. You're a rock star, man.

Bob Motta (4:38)

And I appreciate it. I'm ready to get home.

Yeah, I, here's my honest take. And it was interesting because I spoke to a lot of people, a lot of the media that I'm sitting with, and I'm not obviously traditional media.