Lindsay Clancy's Mother Testifies — She Knew About the Thoughts in December

**SPEAKER_1** (0:00)
This is live courtroom coverage of the trial of Lindsay Clancy from the Hidden Killers podcast in True Crime Today. Now, back to the courtroom.

**SPEAKER_2** (0:11)
Now, you testified in direct examination about the statements that Lindsay made in December about having thoughts about harming the children. When in December was that?

**Paula Musgrove** (0:25)
I don't exactly remember. I would say early to mid-December, probably.
Maybe earlier rather than mid-December, but I don't exactly remember when.

**SPEAKER_2** (0:37)
Okay. And when she made the statement that she had thoughts of harming the children, did either you or Patrick ask her what she meant by that?

**Paula Musgrove** (0:46)
I believe I remember Pat asking her if she felt like she couldn't be alone with the children and she said no.

**SPEAKER_2** (0:53)
And after she made those statements, did you have any thoughts about committing her?

**Paula Musgrove** (1:01)
No.

**SPEAKER_2** (1:02)
Did you have any thoughts about having her come stay with you in Connecticut, away from the children?

**Paula Musgrove** (1:08)
No.

**SPEAKER_2** (1:09)
Were you concerned for the children's safety at that point in time?

**Paula Musgrove** (1:14)
No, because I was there.

**SPEAKER_2** (1:18)
And you were asked about some text messages in October, and those are now in Exhibit, I believe.
Exhibit 276 And so you talked about the text on the 20th when she asked you to come, and she was having a hard time, right?

**Paula Musgrove** (1:42)
Yes.

**SPEAKER_2** (1:43)
A day before, on October 19th, she had sent you a different text message stating, Hi, Mom, would you ever consider coming to stay with us for a couple of days at a time to help with child care so I can work?
And talking to a therapist and doing a lot of thinking, I actually think going to work will help me, but it's really hard with nurses hours to get child care that we need. I'm thinking if you could come like Sunday to mid-Tuesday, it would be really helpful, just a thought. Do you remember that text the day before?

**Paula Musgrove** (2:12)
Yes.

**SPEAKER_2** (2:13)
And did you agree in a text message that you said I can come and help out?

**Paula Musgrove** (2:19)
Yes.

**SPEAKER_2** (2:20)
And then after that, that next day is when she said she was having trouble and wanted you there then, and you went that day, correct? But you said you were there for about a week, but there's a text on October 20th that's not included in this exhibit, where on October 24th, at 2:36 p.m., you send a text to her saying, how are things today? And she responds, good.
You remember that?

**Paula Musgrove** (2:53)
Yes.

**SPEAKER_2** (2:54)
So were you already home at that point when you were asking her how she was doing on the 24th?

**Paula Musgrove** (3:00)
I must have been home at that point. I honestly don't remember. I was back and forth so many times.
So the time frames are really jumbled in my head as far as how long I stayed any particular time.

**SPEAKER_2** (3:11)
And so you would go and help out when they asked you to, and then you would go home when things were calmed down a little bit? Is that right?

**Paula Musgrove** (3:21)
Not exactly right.

**SPEAKER_2** (3:23)
No? And she did say on the 24th that she was doing good that day, correct?

**Paula Musgrove** (3:28)
I don't recall, but if that's what the text says, then.

**SPEAKER_2** (3:34)
Here you go, if you can look at it. So she told you at that point on the 24th she was doing good, right?

**Paula Musgrove** (3:50)
Correct.

**SPEAKER_2** (3:52)
You have this page bar. That's the next exhibit. Any objection? No. That may be not.
Now, you talked about a time when you went to her home and you actually ended up sleeping with her because she didn't want to be alone. Was that that October 20th visit?

**Paula Musgrove** (4:19)
No.

**SPEAKER_2** (4:19)
When was that?

**Paula Musgrove** (4:21)
That was, I can't exactly remember when. I'm going to say probably sometime in November, the latter part of November, maybe the early part of December.

**SPEAKER_2** (4:30)
Did she tell you why she was afraid to be alone?

**Paula Musgrove** (4:34)
She just said she was afraid to be alone. One reason I believe she said she didn't know if she was going to be able to sleep, but mainly she was afraid to be alone.

**SPEAKER_2** (4:43)
At that point in time, did you consider having her committed to a psychiatric facility? No. Did you feel the need to call 911 that day or get her immediate assistance?