**Tony Brueski** (0:00)
This is live courtroom coverage of the trial of Lindsay Clancy from the Hidden Killers podcast in True Crime Today. Now, back to the courtroom.
**SPEAKER_2** (0:12)
Yes, really, Ms. Clancy.
**SPEAKER_3** (0:13)
What we're going to do at this point, Ms. Clancy, I'm going to, my understanding is that you, through counsel, have offered to stipulate to certain facts that would be introduced during the course of this trial.
So what I want to do is just ask you a series of questions to make sure that you understand the effect of stipulating to these facts. So I'm going to just ask you some brief questions at this point, and then we'll go from there. So if you could swear Ms. Clancy in, please.
**SPEAKER_2** (0:49)
I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
**SPEAKER_3** (0:57)
Ms. Clancy, I have been shown a list or a summary of stipulations that's been marked as exhibit or J for identification. So it's my understanding that you are requesting or offering to stipulate to certain facts. Is that correct?
**SPEAKER_2** (1:17)
Yes, Your Honor.
**SPEAKER_3** (1:18)
And before I accept that, I got to make sure, ask you some questions, make sure that your decision to do so is voluntary, that you understand the consequences. So I'm going to ask you some questions. If at any time you need to speak to Mr. Reddington, or you have any questions or problems understanding what I'm saying, just let me know, okay?
Now, do you understand that the Commonwealth in this case is required to prove each and every element of the case against you beyond a reasonable doubt? Do you understand that?
**SPEAKER_4** (1:50)
Yes, Your Honor. All right.
**SPEAKER_3** (1:51)
Do you understand that there are certain facts that could be introduced during the course of the trial that would support, might support, the Commonwealth's position regarding those elements? Do you understand that?
**SPEAKER_4** (2:05)
Yes, Your Honor.
**SPEAKER_3** (2:06)
All right. And do you understand that by signing the stipulation, you're agreeing that the Commonwealth does not have to prove these certain facts that are contained in the stipulation? Do you understand that?
**SPEAKER_4** (2:16)
Yes, Your Honor.
**SPEAKER_3** (2:18)
And do you understand by signing or going along with that stipulation, you are basically relieving the Commonwealth of its burden to prove those certain facts? Do you understand that?
**SPEAKER_4** (2:31)
Yes, Your Honor.
**SPEAKER_3** (2:31)
Is that what you want to do at this point?
**SPEAKER_4** (2:33)
Yes. All right.
**SPEAKER_3** (2:35)
Have you gone over this stipulation or the summary of the stipulations with Attorney Reddington?
**SPEAKER_4** (2:40)
Yes, I have. All right.
**SPEAKER_3** (2:41)
Do you need any more time to do that? No, thank you.
**SPEAKER_4** (2:44)
All right.
**SPEAKER_3** (2:46)
By entering into this stipulation, you're giving up some important rights. I want to go over those with you at this time. To understand by law, you're presumed to be innocent of each charge against you, and you do not have to prove your innocence.
So instead, at trial, the Commonwealth, as I said before, has the burden of proving you are guilty of each element of the charges against you. By entering into this stipulation, you're giving up your right to force the Commonwealth to prove the facts that are contained in these stipulations. Do you understand that?
**SPEAKER_4** (3:20)
Yes, Your Honor.
**SPEAKER_3** (3:21)
All right. You're also at trial, where we are now, you have the right to confront the witnesses that would testify about these facts. And by entering into this stipulation, you're giving up that right with respect to these stipulated facts. Do you understand that?
**SPEAKER_4** (3:37)
Yes, Your Honor. All right.
**SPEAKER_3** (3:40)
You also, if you wanted to, could call your own witnesses at the trial to contest these stipulated facts if you wanted to. You understand you'd be giving up that right by entering into this stipulation?
**SPEAKER_4** (3:52)
Yes, Your Honor.
**SPEAKER_3** (3:53)
All right. You also at trial have the right to remain silent and cannot be forced to testify at this. You understand by entering into this stipulation, you're giving up in a limited way that right with respect to just those facts?
**SPEAKER_4** (4:09)
Yes, Your Honor.
**SPEAKER_3** (4:11)
Are you doing this willingly and voluntarily?
**SPEAKER_4** (4:14)
Yes, I am.
**SPEAKER_3** (4:15)
All right. Has anyone forced you or threatened you to enter into this stipulation?
**SPEAKER_4** (4:20)
No, Your Honor.
**SPEAKER_3** (4:21)
Have you had enough time to talk to council about this?
**SPEAKER_4** (4:23)
Yes, I have. All right.
**SPEAKER_3** (4:33)
All right. I make the following findings. I find that Ms. Clancy is knowingly, intelligently, voluntarily and willingly entered into the stipulation of the facts that are contained and summarized in Exhibit J for identification. I find that she is competent to enter into this stipulation.
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