Lindsay Clancy Trial: Prosecution's Postpartum Expert Grilled Over Her Own Experience

**SPEAKER_1** (0:00)
This is live courtroom coverage of the trial of Lindsay Clancy from the Hidden Killers podcast in True Crime Today. Now, back to the courtroom.

**Dr. Jennifer Tufts** (0:11)
Stop, please.

**SPEAKER_3** (0:15)
Alright, good morning, doctor.

**Kevin Reddington** (0:16)
Good morning.

**SPEAKER_1** (0:17)
Alright.

**SPEAKER_3** (0:19)
Ms. Rankin.

**Kevin Reddington** (0:21)
Thank you. Good morning, doctor.

**Dr. Jennifer Tufts** (0:25)
Morning.

**Kevin Reddington** (0:28)
Do you have your record in front of you, your notes or?

**Dr. Jennifer Tufts** (0:31)
I do.

**Kevin Reddington** (0:34)
And you can look at that, any time you want, just to refresh your memory, I know it's a lot easier.

**Dr. Jennifer Tufts** (0:39)
Thank you.

**Kevin Reddington** (0:45)
Dr. Tufts, you are presently a psychiatrist, correct?

**Dr. Jennifer Tufts** (0:52)
Correct.

**Kevin Reddington** (0:53)
And can you tell me where you went to that school?

**Dr. Jennifer Tufts** (0:57)
University of Vermont.

**Kevin Reddington** (0:59)
And what were the years you were at University of Vermont?

**Dr. Jennifer Tufts** (1:02)
2014 to 2018

**Kevin Reddington** (1:06)
Beautiful country, great place to be, right?

**Dr. Jennifer Tufts** (1:09)
It is, it's beautiful.

**Kevin Reddington** (1:11)
And when you graduated from that school, you then did your residency?

**Dr. Jennifer Tufts** (1:17)
Correct.

**Kevin Reddington** (1:18)
And where was the residency?

**Dr. Jennifer Tufts** (1:20)
Boston Medical Center.

**Kevin Reddington** (1:22)
And can you tell me, what is it exactly that you do as a psychiatric resident or a psychiatrist resident?

**SPEAKER_1** (1:31)
What do you do?

**Dr. Jennifer Tufts** (1:32)
You do a lot, a lot of different things. You rotate in all the different aspects of psychiatry, as well as internal medicine, so that you have a foundational knowledge of broad medical topics.
You admit patients into the inpatient hospital. You manage emergencies in the hospital and in the emergency room. Decide whether patients need to be admitted psychiatrically or not. And also carry a panel of outpatients.

**Kevin Reddington** (2:12)
Is this a hospital that you're working in or is it a Boston University? Is it a medical center?

**Dr. Jennifer Tufts** (2:19)
So yes, it's the Boston University program located at the Hospital Boston Medical Center, with also a lot of time spent at the various Boston VA locations.

**Kevin Reddington** (2:32)
And over the years, I'm sorry, you have been in residency?

**Dr. Jennifer Tufts** (2:37)
2018 to 2022

**Kevin Reddington** (2:42)
So you basically were working as either person studying to be a doctor, a graduate, and then becoming a resident for the entire pandemic.

**Dr. Jennifer Tufts** (2:57)
For the first part of the pandemic, yes.

**Kevin Reddington** (2:59)
Pandemic ended when Joe Biden said it ended. Why 2022, right?

**Dr. Jennifer Tufts** (3:05)
I'm not sure exactly when he said that.

**Kevin Reddington** (3:08)
Do you agree with me that when the pandemic started, around 2019, and you could get in your residency in 2021 into 2022, it was a plunge, or if you will, of the pandemic time frame?

**Dr. Jennifer Tufts** (3:25)
Yes.

**Kevin Reddington** (3:26)
All right. And we all had to walk around with masks and have no contact with people, make sure you have six foot radius before you touch anybody, all of that, right?

**Dr. Jennifer Tufts** (3:35)
Yes.

**Kevin Reddington** (3:35)
How did that impact your residency?

**Dr. Jennifer Tufts** (3:39)
Well, I still went into the hospital most of the time, wearing the proper protective equipment, but I absolutely still provided the necessary medical care that was needed. And some of the outpatient experiences were done via telemedicine.

**Kevin Reddington** (4:02)
Telemedicine?

**Dr. Jennifer Tufts** (4:03)
Yes.

**Kevin Reddington** (4:03)
That's like on a television stream. Like Zoom or something?

**Dr. Jennifer Tufts** (4:07)
It's Zoom or something similar.

**Kevin Reddington** (4:13)
Did you touch people, shake their hands, give them a hug, anything like that while you were working in residency during the pandemic?

**Dr. Jennifer Tufts** (4:22)
Sometimes.
I think everybody had to keep their distance at certain times. I began my program before the pandemic. So, of course, there was a lot more hand shaking and things like that then.

**Kevin Reddington** (4:37)
You can't really keep your distance though when you're working as a labor and delivery nurse with a woman who's having a baby directly in front of you.

**Dr. Jennifer Tufts** (4:46)
I imagine not.

**Kevin Reddington** (4:48)
So, when you finished, do you graduate from a residency or is it like you get a certificate or something?

**Dr. Jennifer Tufts** (4:57)
Yes, there is a certificate for completing it.

**Kevin Reddington** (5:02)
And then, at that point, you are now a licensed doctor. Is that how it works?

**Dr. Jennifer Tufts** (5:08)
Well, you're actually a licensed doctor the entire time that you're in residency. But upon the completion of that, you can obtain a full, unrestricted Massachusetts license and also become board certified.