Lindsay Clancy Trial: Judge, Forensic Scientist, and Nanny Detail DNA and Depression Confessions

**SPEAKER_1** (0:00)
This is live courtroom coverage of the trial of Lindsay Clancy from the Hidden Killers podcast in True Crime Today. Now, back to the courtroom.

**William F. Sullivan** (0:11)
So, members of the jury, remember I think it was yesterday or the day before, I talked a little bit about those stipulations.
So the same instructions, these are facts that we're going to read, that the parties have agreed to, that you can rely on in arriving at your verdict at the end of this case. These stipulations, one of four that was just introduced, you'll have all four of them with you back in the jury room when you deliberate. But so let me just read this one stipulation. This doesn't mean this stipulation is any more important than any of the other ones, but the parties would like me to just read this one here. All right. So this is a stipulation regarding the DNA comparisons for the blue exercise band and the red-brown stain was marked A.
Now, in the above caption matter, the parties agree to the following facts as it pertains to the DNA comparisons for the blue exercise band and the red-brown stain A in the basement. Number one, forensic scientist Emily Oliver reviewed and interpreted the data relating to the question items, parentheses item 2-4, blue exercise band and item 3-3, the red-brown stain A from the basement floor, close parentheses, and conducted comparison analysis to the known standards in this case. Number two, the parties agree to the following conclusions regarding comparison analysis of these items. A, item 2-4.1.1, sample from the ends of the blue exercise band, the DNA profile was interpreted as a mixture of three contributors. There are five individuals who have a likelihood ratio that indicates an inclusion in the profile. They are Dawson Clancy, Callan Clancy, Cora Clancy, Lindsay Clancy, and Patrick Clancy.
B, item 2-4.2.1, sample from the middle of the blue exercise band, the DNA profile was interpreted as a mixture of three contributors. Callan Clancy is included as a major contributor. And C, item 3-3.1, sample of swabs from the red-brown stain A on the basement floor. The DNA profile was interpreted as originating from a single contributor. Cora Clancy is included as a contributor to this DNA profile. So that's the stipulation that the parties have agreed to.

**Sprague** (2:49)
All right.
And one last stipulation to be marked as the next exhibit, the stipulation regarding the batch work done at NNS Labs. We're not asking you to let this be read at this time.

**SPEAKER_1** (3:01)
Watch your step, please.

**William F. Sullivan** (3:02)
Thank you.
Good morning. Good morning.

**Kevin Reddington** (3:06)
All right.

**William F. Sullivan** (3:08)
Attorney Sprague, please.

**Sprague** (3:09)
Thank you, Your Honor. Good morning. Can you please state and spell your name for the record?

**Elaine Rossi** (3:13)
Good morning. My name is Katarina Stashyn. My first name is spelled K-A-T-A-R-I-N-A.
Last name is spelled S-T-A-S-H-Y-N.

**Sprague** (3:25)
Can you describe for us your educational background?

**Elaine Rossi** (3:28)
I have a bachelor's and master's degree in biotechnology from the University of Nevada, Reno.

**Sprague** (3:34)
What is your occupation?

**Elaine Rossi** (3:35)
I'm currently employed by the Washoe County Sheriff's Office, Forensic Science Division, which is located in Reno, Nevada. I'm a criminalist in the Biology and Forensic Investigation sections.

**Sprague** (3:47)
Back in January of 2023, where were you working?

**Elaine Rossi** (3:53)
I previously worked for the Massachusetts State Police Crime Laboratory as a forensic scientist in the DNA unit, which is functionally the same role that I currently have in the biology section.

**Kevin Reddington** (4:04)
I'm sorry. We agree to the DNA. I'm just letting you know that.

**Sprague** (4:08)
Okay. All right. And I'm just giving that evidence to the jury.
So when did you start working for the State Police?

**Elaine Rossi** (4:17)
I worked for the Massachusetts State Police from June 2021 to February of 2025

**Sprague** (4:24)
And what was the nature of your work for the lab at that time?

**Elaine Rossi** (4:32)
As a DNA analyst, I processed evidence items obtained either from a crime scene or from an individual associated with a criminal investigation. These items of evidence would be processed through the laboratory.
I then would perform interpretations, comparisons as needed, write reports. I also could perform administrative reviews of other analysts' work and provide expert witness testimony as needed.

**Sprague** (4:56)
And part of your employment at the Massachusetts State Police Crime Lab, did you take competency tests and proficiency tests to guarantee that you were capable and proficient in the areas you were working?

**Elaine Rossi** (5:09)
Yes, I took both competency tests after my training and proficiency tests throughout my career at Massachusetts and at my current role.