Topics: True Crime, News, News Commentary
**SPEAKER_1** (0:00)
This is live courtroom coverage of the trial of Lindsay Clancy from the Hitting Killers podcast in True Crime Today. Now, back to the courtroom.
**Kevin Reddington** (0:13)
All right, good morning, sir.
**Ian Whiffin** (0:14)
Good morning.
**SPEAKER_4** (0:15)
All right. Tree Spray, please.
**SPEAKER_5** (0:18)
Thank you. Good morning. Can you please state and spell your name for the record?
**Ian Whiffin** (0:21)
Yes, it's Ian Whiffin. I-A-N-W-H-I-F-F-I-N.
**SPEAKER_5** (0:26)
Where do you work?
**Ian Whiffin** (0:27)
Celebrite.
**SPEAKER_5** (0:28)
What is Celebrite?
**Ian Whiffin** (0:30)
Celebrite is a digital intelligence company working in the digital forensics field.
**SPEAKER_5** (0:35)
And how long have you worked there?
**Ian Whiffin** (0:38)
Since 2020
**SPEAKER_5** (0:40)
What is your role at Celebrite?
**Ian Whiffin** (0:43)
I'm currently a customer engagement manager.
**SPEAKER_5** (0:45)
What does that mean?
**Ian Whiffin** (0:46)
I work with customers helping users of our tools to understand the digital evidence that they're finding and presenting.
**SPEAKER_5** (0:55)
And what does digital evidence consist of?
**Ian Whiffin** (0:59)
Any information which is extracted from a cell phone, primarily or from a computer, which can be interpreted by the examiner and presented as evidence. It could be call history, messages, location data, media, anything that you can find from a digital device.
**SPEAKER_5** (1:17)
Could you just briefly describe your education on training background that qualifies you to do this work?
**Ian Whiffin** (1:23)
I've worked in IT for many years.
In 2013, I began my career within Calgary Police Service in Canada as a digital forensics examiner. That was after spending approximately nine or ten years working as a patrol officer in the UK and in Canada. As part of my role as a digital forensics examiner within the Calgary Police, I went on numerous training courses. The Canadian Police College, they did an introductory course into digital forensics. Then further courses focusing on mobile data provided by some vendors such as Blacklight or Cellbright at the time, as well as further courses presented by the Canadian Police College specifically about cell phones.
**SPEAKER_5** (2:14)
Cellbright, the software produced by Cellbright, is that software used to extract and analyze data from cell phones and computers?
**Ian Whiffin** (2:24)
Yes, there are several tools within our catalog. One of them is designed to extract as much data as possible from a cell phone. Then one of the other tools is designed to take that extracted data, decode it, decrypt it, make sense of it, and provide it to the user in a way which can be searched, filtered, organized, reported, and presented.
**SPEAKER_5** (2:49)
Does Celebrite's ability to access cell phone data continually change based on improvements that are done to the phones themselves?
**Ian Whiffin** (3:02)
Yes, there's constantly changes being made to devices which make it difficult to extract the data. There are changes being made to the software development means that the data that we extract is now different to the data that we extracted previously.
A new feature, for example, or a change that's made by the software developer. So we're constantly changing our software to be able to extract that data and to decode more data.
**SPEAKER_5** (3:28)
Were you asked to locate Apple Health data and other information that could be relevant to the investigation of an incident that occurred at 47 Summer Street in Duxbury on January 24th, 2023?
**Ian Whiffin** (3:43)
I was, yes.
**SPEAKER_5** (3:44)
And what is Apple Health data?
**Ian Whiffin** (3:46)
Apple Health is a component of the iOS operating system, which logs sensor data from multiple locations. So the sensors built within an iPhone that monitor steps taken, flights climbed, for example, as well as third-party devices, Apple Watches, Fitbits, any other device like that. All the information is brought into the Apple Health application, aggregated and made available for the user to see.
**SPEAKER_5** (4:16)
Roughly, how many phone extractions have you done?
**Ian Whiffin** (4:21)
Since around 2013, well over a thousand phones.
**SPEAKER_5** (4:24)
And how many times have you done analysis on phone extractions?
**Ian Whiffin** (4:31)
The analysis is part and parcel. So of those thousand phones or so which I've extracted, I've done analysis on all those phones as well.
**SPEAKER_5** (4:38)
And then you've also done analysis on extractions, like in this case, where someone else did the extraction and provided the information to you and you did the analysis?
**Ian Whiffin** (4:48)
Correct. Yeah. Whenever I'm helping customers or users of our tools, they may provide me with the extracted data.
So the data which I'm analyzing is more than the devices I've extracted.
**SPEAKER_5** (5:01)
And have you testified previously in courts about what you've done in terms of extracting and analyzing information?
**Ian Whiffin** (5:08)
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