KT: Behind the Tape (Ep: 793 Big Jay Oakerson + Zac Brown + Mike Finoia)

Zac Brown (0:12)

I was a terrible student. Yeah, me too. I was going to be retarded.

Tony Hinchcliffe (0:14)

Oh my god, me too. I just couldn't pay attention.

Zac Brown (0:19)

Yeah, me either.

Tony Hinchcliffe (0:21)

You know, these kids have smartphones. I can't even imagine.

Zac Brown (0:26)

Yeah, we just have to go to the fucking Dewey Decimal System.

SPEAKER_3 (0:29)

Yeah, shit in the library in the encyclopedia.

Zac Brown (0:31)

And then that's wrong. Like, the information in the encyclopedia is a lot of wrong.

Tony Hinchcliffe (0:34)

Yep.

You know, the AI is interesting because it's a different way to cheat. It used to have to be crafty. You'd have to, like, figure that out, which gives you lessons for the future, right? It's like, you know, you have to, like, be almost like James Bond back in the day. Now you can go, what's the answer to this? And it just gives it to you. Oh, yeah.

Zac Brown (0:58)

Or, give me an answer to this, and, like, William Church, or Winston Churchill would do it in the hands of a spell out. If I was a songwriter only and didn't perform, I would be fucking scared.

SPEAKER_3 (1:10)

Oh my god, I know.

Zac Brown (1:11)

Because even, like, for scripts and movies and TV, you have a budget to make all the shit, or you can just use the Suno app and make all the shit yourself in 30 minutes, the whole soundtrack. If you like it, you just tell it to do it again.

And then it comes out fully produced with fucking horns and choir and shit and it strings on it.

Tony Hinchcliffe (1:29)

Crazy.

Zac Brown (1:31)

Yeah, we're living in a weird time. It's gonna be nice. Five years ago, we didn't know.

Tony Hinchcliffe (1:34)

Man. Man, it's so crazy.

Zac Brown (1:38)

People are gonna have a human experience when they come together for comedy or music.

Tony Hinchcliffe (1:43)

I think so. I think it's gonna all be about, I think just like everything else, like the pandemic, like the lockdown, like everything, it makes people hungry for life, human feeling in the moment. We're all here together. A mistake could happen. Mistakes are gonna be what people go for now. You know what I mean? And I guess it's always been that way. You see the Kanye, I see the Kanye clips of him giving a note, right? Like, hey, keyboards, you came in too fast on that one. That's the stuff that goes viral. I remember when I went and saw Roger Waters at the Coliseum 17 years ago.

He had an audio issue in his in-ears and he goes, in the middle of a song, he goes, stop, stop, stop, you know, my monitor B is not matching up with monitor D. Like, nobody knows what he's talking about at all in a football stadium. And like, we're all like, whoa, what's going on here? And then he goes, sorry about that, folks, little issue there. We're going to take it from the top of the thin ice, or whatever the song was.

And the crowd goes nuts, because they're like, whoa, we get a free two minutes. We get to hear this again. Like, how cool. So it's amazing. Like, I remember that. What else do I remember specifically from that concert, other than being in the highest nosebleeds and, you know, being broke and not knowing how I was going to eat or drink after that night? Nothing. You remember those.

Zac Brown (3:17)

The Twin Rex, like, shit happens bad. Like, a guitar tech brings a guitar out, and it's one capo off, like one fret off.

My whole band's a ninja. They'll jump on it and play it in that key, you know. But I'll just stop it. Or if there's a fight about to break out, I'll stop it. I'll stop the show. And I'll make the guys hug each other.

Tony Hinchcliffe (3:34)

I love that.

Zac Brown (3:35)

Put the camera on them.

Tony Hinchcliffe (3:36)

I love it.

Zac Brown (3:37)

Give them a hug right now.

Tony Hinchcliffe (3:39)

I love that, yeah.

Zac Brown (3:41)

They're about to steamroll little kids and old ladies out there. This one huge guy, this guy was like a freaking tank. He was out there dancing and whatever. And then this other guy, he looked like he was like kind of Miami, like, you know, hood, white dude. And he kept looking at this big guy. The big guy was just having fun. And then he finally gets to where, and this big guy was about to kill this guy.

And he didn't want to fight him, he was getting ready to kill him or whatever.