Keir Starmer BANS social media for under-16s

**Ava** (0:00)
Am I tough enough? Strong and stable leadership.

**Andy** (0:02)
Total ruba. Hell yes, I'm tough enough. Shut the fridge. Not another once. It's the PoliticsJOE Podcast.

**Ava** (0:10)
Love, focus, and onsies. I'm going to put this out tomorrow, so we're recording this today, but they're hearing this tomorrow.

**Andy** (0:20)
Oh, fantastic.

**Ava** (0:21)
Because the thing that they're getting today is about the Palestine Action prescribing.

**Andy** (0:25)
The upholding of the prescription.

**Ava** (0:27)
The upholding. It was upheld.

**Andy** (0:29)
Upheld, it was upheld.

**Ava** (0:30)
Upheld.

**Andy** (0:31)
Which is interesting.

**Ava** (0:33)
Yeah, like the long and the short of it, well, they can go and they probably, presumably, they've listened to yesterday's podcast. Who knows? They might not have, but if you haven't, you could go listen to it. But the stipulation is that essentially the home secretary and the home office have more room. If they want to do that, then they should be allowed to do that.

**Andy** (0:53)
Which is mad.

**Ava** (0:54)
Do you know, I tell you what, it was actually really unsettling because I went with Ben Spielberg and it was really unsettling watching everyone be arrested. It was quite creepy. We would be interviewing them and then they'd be picked up and taken away and it was quite dystopian.

**Andy** (1:12)
I cycled past the Royal Courts this morning on my way to work.

**Ava** (1:14)
Oh, then you would have seen me.

**Andy** (1:16)
Well, it was like maybe 7.30, 8 o'clock in the morning.

**Ava** (1:18)
Oh, then why would you would not see me now?

**Andy** (1:19)
But I was shocked how many police were there that early. Because I knew it was happening today, but I didn't think it was happening until like 10, 11 o'clock. They were there early. There were probably 100 police already there.
I was a bit surprised at it. I think the whole saga, my favorite thing about it all was when they called themselves Yvette Cooper for about a week.

**Ava** (1:39)
Did they?

**Andy** (1:39)
Yeah, so now technically Yvette Cooper is prescribed as an alias of Palestine Action.

**Ava** (1:44)
They were a lot of police and they bust a lot of them in as well.

**Andy** (1:47)
Yeah.

**Ava** (1:47)
So like when it was all, it was weird. We were like talking to them. I was like asking police officers before, are you planning to arrest them all if? It was more like for planning.

**Andy** (1:58)
Yeah.

**Ava** (1:59)
Of like, is this going to happen? They're like, we don't know, we're not sure. Then they got the order.
So I wonder, yeah, it's an interesting one, isn't it? Mark Rowley's really, Mark Rowley's getting himself, making himself busy, isn't he?

**Andy** (2:17)
He's made a tit of himself.

**Ava** (2:19)
What do you think? I thought he made a tit of himself when he overruled Sadiq Khan.

**Andy** (2:24)
On the Palantir.

**Ava** (2:25)
On the Palantir stuff.

**Andy** (2:26)
For some reason on Sophie Ridge. Yeah.

**Ava** (2:28)
But why is that allowed? I mean, surely you shouldn't be lobbying for a commercial venture, like with the...

**Andy** (2:35)
You would imagine that as the head of the Met Police, you're not allowed to state publicly whether you favor or not favor a certain vendor for a procurement contract, but apparently you can. I thought he made a...

**Ava** (2:46)
Is it because the Home Office wants it?

**Andy** (2:48)
I don't even think the Home Office...

**Ava** (2:50)
Who wants it? Do?

**Andy** (2:51)
Like, I don't know. I think Louis Molesley is the chief exec of Palantir in the UK.
I think he's got very good PR. He's everywhere. He's always everywhere. He's on the BBC in Sky twice a week.

**Ava** (3:05)
Well, I know they've really softened their image. I also was really frustrated because there's a commentator who I like and respect, and I was listening to them sort of talk about this moral panic over Palantir.
Like, oh gosh, they just get so exercised about anything. And I thought, I think it's perfectly reasonable to be exercised about all of your data being subsumed by a company that is not inherently based here. Oh, by the way, you have not referred to me by my correct pronouns.

**Andy** (3:41)
What's your pronoun?

**Ava** (3:42)
I've got correct pronouns now.

**Andy** (3:43)
What are your pronouns?

**Ava** (3:46)
Horrible, horrible feminist who hates men.

**Andy** (3:49)
Oh, where did that come from?

**Ava** (3:51)
That was just so you know, there's a couple of people who were sacked from GB News.
And for some reason, they're still talking about that three years later. Do you know what I mean? Like, let it go.