**Karlous Miller** (0:00)
So Paul, why you think marriage is just for old people and poor people?
**Paul Pierce** (0:05)
Because I look at the divorce rate.
Like, when you turn 70, you ain't know where you're divorcing. Like, y'all gotta take it to the end.
**Karlous Miller** (0:14)
Shit.
**Paul Pierce** (0:15)
You know what I'm saying? Nah, that ain't happening. And then like-
**Karlous Miller** (0:18)
Old people divorce?
**Azar Farideh** (0:19)
I don't see it.
**Karlous Miller** (0:20)
I'm 75, I be dead.
**Paul Pierce** (0:25)
Nah, hell nah. I ain't gone with that shit on my conscience.
**Karlous Miller** (0:29)
I'm going, next place I go gonna be heaven, and I'm going by myself.
**Paul Pierce** (0:32)
And I go back to like, where did even marriage come from?
How did it get, how did we constitute this? And why is this the American thing to do, or the religious thing to do? You know what I'm saying? Like, you can be with somebody and not, because I hate the fact that you deal with divorce and everything. Like, why do the women get, like, everything? Like, why can't I get the kids? Why can't I get half of what, y'all have your clothes over there? Like, you know, it's like-
**Azar Farideh** (1:02)
You will have your clothes.
**Paul Pierce** (1:03)
Like, it don't matter. It's like, it's messed up that, like, a man gets stripped down when he leave a woman, or she leave him, or she decide she don't want to be him. So, like, why is it a thing to do? Because everybody, you know, I've been, everybody say, they say, oh, well, all great men are married. All them great men that's been married been divorced, too.
For sure. Like, all, like, like, like, a lot of them. Because that's what the divorced race say.
You know, like, damn, how the hell did, did, what's the from Amazon got divorced?
**Azar Farideh** (1:41)
Jeff Bezos?
**Paul Pierce** (1:42)
Didn't he got divorced?
He got hit for billies. Oh my God. Like, God damn.
**Azar Farideh** (1:50)
But also too, you have to understand, like, I know a woman.
**Paul Pierce** (1:53)
I know. Like, you, you rich, you successful, like, oh, all great men, it happens. Like, so what's the reason for me? Like, all right, this is the great thing about, I really don't know what you can do in marriage that you don't have to do as just being with somebody. Cause I can live with a female, have kids with her, raise them, da da da, we don't have to have no paperwork. I can do that without getting married.
You know what I'm saying?
**Karlous Miller** (2:18)
Yeah, but the title means something to them.
**Paul Pierce** (2:20)
What do the title mean?
**Karlous Miller** (2:22)
You wanting to be like your other half.
**Paul Pierce** (2:23)
You are.
**Karlous Miller** (2:24)
You supposed to get together and then like, it's like, Voltron or some shit. Like, y'all supposed to be two bad motherfuckers, individuals, then together like y'all, a super bad.
**Paul Pierce** (2:35)
So speaking as an athlete, like, and I knew this because we have like meetings with the NBPA and they're like, you know, most athletes in the NBA, the divorce rate for us is 90%.
**Karlous Miller** (2:49)
Yeah, that's cause that's a scam anyway. 80%.
**Paul Pierce** (2:53)
So like, I thought like, damn, like I got married because I love the woman and I had kids with her, but I knew like, damn, at some point this, and I used to say it too, like, damn, this ain't going to be forever. Like, forever don't last no more. This ain't old school where our parents used to stay together forever. Like, we don't live in that generation no more. Marriage is even less now.
So it don't even make sense for like, entertainer, anybody in the, that's influence, of influence that make a lot of money to even get married. It's cool for the time, but like, every time I look up, I'm like, oh, he divorced, oh, she did this. And then the resentment come in and then you start seeing the resentment. Like, damn, we just shared our life. We went from love to hate.
I never want to feel hate again, cause I got friends that feel hate after the marriage.
**Karlous Miller** (3:45)
Yeah, it can make you real bitter and have you strong.
**Paul Pierce** (3:48)
I never want to see that. Like, damn, so like, if we didn't get married, we'd probably be better friends if we didn't.
**Karlous Miller** (3:55)
Trying to put a title on some shit. Even with a relationship, sometimes they could fuck it up too though.
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