John Gray: Why Men Stop Wanting Their Wives
The Human Upgrade: Biohacking for Longevity & Performance
October 16, 2026
The king is back! You probably recognize his name as the author of the famous book, Men Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus.
Speakers Dave Asprey, John Gray
TopicsHealth & FitnessEducationSelf-Improvement
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Today's episode is one that I just have been looking forward to for a long time. It is with a dear friend, a guy who's taught me so much and a guy you've probably heard of, John Gray. He's the author of a very famous book, Men Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus, and probably 40 other books. How many books have you written now, John?
John Gray (2:41)
Well, just 25
Dave Asprey (2:43)
Oh, my gosh. It's such a slacker. I'm at eight, by the way, just to be clear.
John Gray (2:48)
Congrats. They're amazing books.
Dave Asprey (2:51)
Oh, thank you. Truly. Coming from you, that means a lot.
The thing I wanted to chat about here is, you know, things have changed since the 90s. And so you wrote a then and now version of this, with the idea being even over that 20 or 30 year range, that the most common relationship problems are, at least between men and women, are because of fundamental psychological differences between the sexes. Has anything changed in that view over the course of your last 30 years, or is this just kind of, this is a fundamental problem?
John Gray (3:30)
Well, I think men are still men, women are still men, women. But the challenges we face are completely different. As soon as women started being independent from men, making more money, being independent, being highly educated, what do they need a man for? So that changed everything. So many single women will say, why do I need a man in my life? Well, if you don't know what you need a man for, why do I want to be with you? Because ultimately men are looking for a job. They want to be successful. Everything we do is to be successful. And many women listening are going to go, yeah, I want that too. That's her masculine side.
But if you're a man and you have a biology of a man, feeling successful and providing for others, solving problems, getting things done, setting goals and achieving those goals produces male-friendly hormones, testosterone. And women with the same intention of solving problems, fixing things, achieving your goals, making money, they make testosterone as well. And it's not that testosterone is not female-friendly. It's just testosterone doesn't lower a woman's stress levels. Testosterone will lower a man's stress levels. And how I say that is when a man is experiencing high cortisol levels, chronic stress, his testosterone levels are low.
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