Jobs Utopia or Fiasco?

Joel Cheesman (0:00)

All right, who's ready for a cold hard fact? Indeed's pricing model, and all programmatic job advertising, is based on driving volume, not outcomes. Job boards get paid on clicks and applies, not hires. Their incentive is to send you more volume. That's what happens with volume-based pricing models, and all that volume creates exactly what you'd expect. Mass inefficiency, mountains of unqualified applicants, and wasted spend. Meanwhile, TA teams know their career site is already their best source of quality applicants who get hired. TA teams invest in their career sites and employer brand, but the outdated technology makes it too hard for people to connect and apply. Dalia fixes that. Millions of job seekers use Dalia every month to seamlessly connect to employer career sites and apply to jobs using their universal candidate profile. No re-entering information over and over. It's like the shop pay button, but for jobs. It's secure, it integrates directly into your ATS, and it works instantly on any career site. Employers using Dalia can double their conversion of career site visitors into qualified applicants and hires. That's how you start cutting your dependence on Indeed. Learn more at dalia.co. That's D-A-L-I-ACO.

SPEAKER_2 (1:15)

A crummy commercial?

SPEAKER_3 (1:19)

Son of a bitch.

Joel Cheesman (1:21)

But my shout out goes out to personally my favorite porn star and part-time industry expert.

SPEAKER_2 (1:30)

There we go.

Joel Cheesman (1:31)

Hung Lee. Hung Lee.

SPEAKER_4 (1:32)

All right, Emi, follow that.

SPEAKER_2 (1:34)

Come on, Emi.

Emi (1:35)

I don't think I can. You know what's actually going through my head? Just like Hung Lung a donkey. You know?

Chad Sowash (1:40)

Yeah, it is. Yeah.

Pretty much.

SPEAKER_8 (1:44)

I mean, terrible donkey show Lee.

SPEAKER_2 (1:47)

A donkey.

Chad Sowash (1:49)

Yeah. Donkey show Lee.

Emi (1:50)

Hung Lung a donkey Lee.

SPEAKER_2 (1:52)

Come on, just slam an I and brew and let's do this, boys.

Chad Sowash (1:56)

Hide your kids, lock the doors. You're listening to HR's most dangerous podcast. Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman are here to punch the recruiting industry right where it hurts. Complete with breaking news, brash opinion and loads of snark. Buckle up, boys and girls. It's time for The Chad & Cheese Podcast.

Joel Cheesman (2:20)

Ah, yeah, too much riz, aura and drip for one podcast. Yet here we are. Hey kids, it's The Chad & Cheese Podcast. I'm your co-host, Joel. I'm ready for some football Cheesman.

Chad Sowash (2:34)

This is Chad, screw the I and brew. I'm slamming a Guinness.

Emi (2:38)

Sowash and I'm Emi. Just call me the Carnival Queen.

Chad Sowash (2:43)

Oh, that's good moves.

Chad Sowash (2:44)

Yeah.

Joel Cheesman (2:44)

And on this episode of HR's most dangerous podcast, the state of labor, the state of jobs and the state of Holland.

Wait a minute. Is that a state? I guess I guess we'll figure it out.

Chad Sowash (2:57)

Let's do this.

Joel Cheesman (2:59)

It's commercial time.

Chad Sowash (3:01)

OK, face it. Recruitment marketing is broken. 70 percent of paid recruitment media goes wasted. 93 percent of candidates bounce off your job ads before they even apply for the job. And this is not a talent problem. No, it's not a data problem. It's a targeting and experience problem. The beauty of this is companies aren't trying to fix it. They're transforming it.

SPEAKER_4 (3:24)

Hell yeah.

Chad Sowash (3:26)

With up to 80 percent more high quality applicants, 40 percent reduction in spend and 50 percent less recruiter time spent, they're realizing what's possible with recruitment marketing that actually works. So how do they do it? Well, they chose Jovio, an AI led high performance recruitment marketing platform built to eliminate waste and drive more results. With Jovio's AI agents, your job ads reach the right candidates, while your career site, conversational AI and application process drive better candidates and conversions. What about those qualified candidates you've already bought and paid for and they're wasting away in your ATS? Well, Jovio also re-engages them. Want to learn more about Jovio? Cool. Just go to jovio.com. That's joveo.com. It's showtime.

OK, OK, dude, the whole Clippers thing I've been seeing from outside the US.

Chad Sowash (4:24)

The LA. Clippers NBA basketball, just for the NBA basketball.

Joel Cheesman (4:28)

But we know Emi brings a lot of internationals when she's on.

SPEAKER_9 (4:30)

Yes, that's a good call.

Chad Sowash (4:32)

I don't know much about what's going on other than, like, you know, they're trying to feed Kawhi Leonard money under the table, that kind of stuff. But what I was interested in is I was in my threads and I saw all this news and I saw this old commercial of Steve Ballmer. Steve Ballmer is the owner and he is actually banned. He's banned from the NBA for a year. They got they got nailed with five first round draft picks with they can't have anymore. This I wanted I wanted us to have a little nostalgia. So show that video, Cheesman.