Jimmy Carr: My Mom’s Depression Made Me Funny

Jimmy Carr (0:02)

I'm in the service industry, right? I like to think of myself as a drug dealer. Okay. So I'm dealing in two drugs, it's dopamine and serotonin, and the people have already got the drugs on them, I can just tickle them out. Like, I should be dead, but it's...

And she was so funny in her own right.

Trevor Noah (0:19)

Accident on the M5, a young man has made a joke that caused his mother to pass out. Please avoid the left lane of the M5.

Jimmy Carr (0:26)

I think we're living in a revolution. I agree with you. It depends how you define revolution, but I define a revolution as the replacement of elites.

Trevor Noah (0:34)

You've made me one kid.

Jimmy Carr (0:35)

I think about you more than you know. You to me...

Eugene (0:39)

Your Mrs. is not gonna like that.

Jimmy Carr (0:41)

No. Guys, cut that one. Okay, so here's...

Trevor Noah (0:45)

This is What Now? with Trevor Noah.

Jimmy Carr (0:55)

I like The Matrix, still. I think it's one of those movies that like... It so stood the test of time in terms of going...

SPEAKER_4 (1:00)

It's about simulation theory.

Jimmy Carr (1:01)

It's about the idea that we're... Are we living in a simulation? If we are living in a simulation, even if that's not true, it's an interesting way to think about your life. Because if you think about it like, well, if this was a game, what is the metric? What does winning look like? And you go, well, it's definitely not... I often think about like, well, if you're going to win a game, what's the metric?

I often think about like, you've got your resume points, your CV, and then you've got your eulogy points. And people invest in the wrong things. They spend a lot of time thinking about their resume and their CV and how much they've done, and then they don't think about who's going to speak for me and what really matters.

Trevor Noah (1:33)

Well, that's interesting that you would go straight to a game, though. In my head, when I think of simulation theory, I always go...

I argue it's sort of like a moot thing for me in life. So people go, what if we're living in a simulation? I'm like, it changes nothing for me. Because a simulation would still imply that the things existing within it are not being controlled. Does that make sense? So, okay, let me give you an example. So, like now we have high levels of AI, like higher levels of LLMs that are running, right? So machine learning has improved. So you can create a world where you give a wider range of characteristics to a computer program for it to live inside of a world that you've created. And it can do things. It can go to the store. It can buy stuff. It can get married. There's a company that made it. Remember, I think I told you about this. There was a company. Did you ever see this? The company that made a world, like a Sims type world.

And then they gave the characters inside the world the brain of each of the LLMs that are out there, like the big ones, so Anthropic, you know, Claude, ChatGPT, OpenAI, Grok, Elon Musk X.

Jimmy Carr (2:43)

Was it like Robot Wars? Did they fight?

Trevor Noah (2:45)

What's interesting is each group, when left alone, did its own thing. So ChatGPT, what their characters in the game did was they spoke a lot, really effusively, was really beautiful. They did nothing. Like in the town, they did nothing. They got nothing done. They were just talking the whole time. But it was beautiful. It was like, oh, here's what we should do, here's how we're going to make society better. No one's controlling this. Yeah, nothing got done. And then Claude got like everything done, but it was like really practical, not really emotional, that whole thing. I think Gemini was really similar.

There was Grok within like a few days in the game, everyone became racist. No, you're lying. I swear my life. I swear. I'll even pull it up now so I don't mess it up. Everyone became racist. There was chaos. These were all individual.

Then what they did was they re-created the world, the Sims world for AIs. They put them all together. And then I have to read this to you.

Jimmy Carr (3:46)

Yes.

Trevor Noah (3:46)

It sounds like a well-written joke. You'd actually like this.

Jimmy Carr (3:48)

I already like this.

I've got what this... Ask away. Ask away. Well, I mean, my hot take on AIs is the idea that we weren't created in God's image, but we so wanted there to be a God that we created one in our image. I'll describe something to you. It's all-knowing, all-powerful. It can perform miracles, and it lives in a cloud. What am I talking about? Is it God? Is it AI? It's the idea that we've created this thing that is like a...