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Jesse Lee Peterson Says Blacks Were BETTER OFF During Jim Crow...

Hodgetwins Podcast

August 19, 2026

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Speakers: Kevin Hodge, Jesse Lee Peterson, Keith Hodge

Topics: News

**Kevin Hodge** (0:01)
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**Jesse Lee Peterson** (0:13)
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**Keith Hodge** (0:25)
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**Jesse Lee Peterson** (0:29)
They just don't think straight. And so-

**Kevin Hodge** (0:33)
Well, Jesse, a lot of African, I mean, a lot of black Americans think we're kidnapped.
I was like, man, I know white people are great, but they can't be that great when they come to a continent and just start kidnapping people. They had some help. It is.

**Jesse Lee Peterson** (0:45)
It's amazing to me that black people think that white people are smarter than them. Yeah. It wasn't that way when I was growing up. As you know, I grew up in Alabama on a plantation.
I did a general cold law. Black people used to be independent thinkers.
They didn't have black leaders. They thought and did it for themselves. They bought land and just kind of did their own thing. It wasn't until the civil rights movement came along, which was the worst thing that ever happened to the blacks, the civil rights movement other than abortion, they turned their lives over to Marlon Cheney and Jesse Jackson and all those people, and it's been down here ever since. You should never ever, ever have another person over you. Right. As an adult, especially men, you're not supposed to have a leader. God is your only leader, right? But they put other people in charge of them, and they've been leading them down a path of destruction ever since. Yeah. And that's the primary problem.

**Kevin Hodge** (1:43)
You got to be able to think for yourself.

**Jesse Lee Peterson** (1:44)
You got to.

**Kevin Hodge** (1:45)
Yeah, because when I was raised, my mom was a Democrat. It's like, that's the black thing to do, be Democrat. But then, when I got in my 30s and I just start living my life and saying things for myself, I was like, wait a minute, this stuff is kind of crazy.

**Jesse Lee Peterson** (1:58)
Yeah.

**Kevin Hodge** (1:59)
It's kind of nuts over here on how they think on the left side when it comes to politics.

**Jesse Lee Peterson** (2:04)
Yeah, I grew up a Republican because when I was growing up, there was no Democrats that I was aware of. Most black people were Republicans. And so it wasn't until I moved to LA at 18, I started listening to Jesse Jackson, Louis Farrakhan and all the crazy people. And they were telling me, the white man is against you because of your color. And being young and I thought they were leaders, I fell for the lie.
And then I finally realized I had been lied to. So I dropped the Democrat and went back to, what went to the Republican Party.

**Kevin Hodge** (2:38)
That's the main reason why you switched to the Republican because of the Civil Rights Movement.

**Jesse Lee Peterson** (2:41)
Yeah, I realized they were lying to me and that my issue was a spiritual issue, not physical.
But they made us think that, and I had hatred for white people too. Once I listened to them, I didn't grow up like that.

**Kevin Hodge** (2:53)
Yeah, I did too because my mom was showing us roots.

**Keith Hodge** (2:56)
You know, the black shows.

**Kevin Hodge** (2:58)
I would go to school next day just looking at the white people.

**Jesse Lee Peterson** (3:00)
Right. Right.

**Kevin Hodge** (3:01)
And I don't know, it put a hatred in me. I think over time it developed, I gave me anxiety. I saw a white person looking at me. I was like, they're looking at me like that because I'm a Negro.

**Jesse Lee Peterson** (3:11)
Yeah.

**Kevin Hodge** (3:11)
You know, looking back on it, that white woman wanted to get with me. But my mom had fed me these lies, they're white people against you, white people against you.

**Jesse Lee Peterson** (3:20)
That is so true, man. I used to think that anytime white people disagree with me at work or something, I totally thought it was because I'm black. Yeah. Yeah. I just couldn't believe it. There's two people just disagreeing. Yeah, you see things, it's not that.
That is so true, man. So finally, I realized that, okay, if I'm black and white man holding me back, why is it that he's not holding Jesse Jackson, his family back, Louis Farrakhan and all. They were living in amazing homes and they have jobs and kids have fathers and mothers. I'm like, why aren't they holding them back? That's when I realized I had been lied to.

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