Jeff Metcalf on Enduring the Unendurable

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**Andrew Colvett** (1:17)
All right. Welcome back, everybody.
We are monitoring the first day of the preliminary hearing in the state versus Tyler Robinson. There was a lot of back and forth going on about exhibits. I saw some reports saying that they weren't going to show any of the evidence, but actually that was a motion or that was a move made by the defense, not the state. The state is moving to show them all, but the defense has a concern about those being displayed or published, quote unquote, published before they've been admitted as evidence. So, that's the back and forth going on there, which is interesting. I do have some notes on that, that the hearing started with arguments over publishing of evidence beyond the courtroom. Per the defense request, the state wants evidence published. Defense doesn't want anything to be public, especially prior to the judge admitting as evidence. So, that's the central tension there.
We've got Jay Town, former prosecutor, that is going to be joining us in just a second. And we also have, which I think is a very important guest, we have Austin Metcalf's father. And that's Jeff Metcalf. He's going to be joining us. I just reached out to him because there's very few people that can understand the torment that Erika Kirk and Rob and Catherine Charlie's parents are experiencing right now, just having to be in the courtroom with Tyler Robinson. I can only imagine the agony that they are currently experiencing. So please pray for Erika, pray for Rob and Catherine, pray for the whole team, the larger team that's in Utah today.
And it is true, Don Jr. is in the courtroom by Erika, Rob and Catherine's side, standing in solidarity with them. So we appreciate Don for doing that. Blake, any thoughts? I'm going to pull something together here.

**Blake** (3:29)
I mean, we told you last week, we're committed to seeing this process through from beginning to end. So we know this is a little unusual from our normal show, but it's exactly what we want to be doing in this moment. We want to, there's been so many claims about this process online. There's been so many, there's been so much, I think, agitation because people have been waiting for this. They want to see the process of justice play out. And because there were so many delays, a lot of other stuff intruded. And we're so glad we're finally at this point where we're seeing witnesses come up. We're seeing people talk about it. And we're committed to showing every minute of it that we're able to.

**Andrew Colvett** (4:09)
Yeah, so like I said, we've got Jay Town and we've got Austin Metcalf's father. Yeah, so this is interesting, too. So you just heard the last witness before they took the break is actually a UVU police officer. I'm not sure his name presently, but essentially he said he heard a shot and then he was asked what kind of shot. He said it sounded like a rifle because it was louder. He seemed to be familiar with the type of shot. So the Internet is going to be full of all these alternate theories. Here's the police officer that was on duty that day saying, I heard a rifle shot. Okay, so that's a key piece of evidence there.
Here we go. The defense attempted to object to entering the first exhibit, the photo of the courtyard in for publication. The state of Utah said, is this photograph a fair and accurate depiction of the area of UVU campus on September 10, 2025? Defense, Your Honor, we would object to inability to inauthenticate. There's not been a foundation laid that this officer took this photo, can verify when it was taken or by whom it was taken. So we would object. So this is the sort of back and forth that is going to play out over the next couple of days.