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JD Vance, Joe Rogan, Epstein, and Israel

The Charlie Kirk Show

July 16, 2026

JD Vance went back onto Joe Rogan's podcast yesterday, where he admitted the Administration bungled its handling of the Epstein files, and sparked a dramatic reaction with frank comments about Israeli influence on U.S. politics.
Speakers: Charlie Kirk, Andrew Colvett, Blake, JD Vance, Joe Rogan, Alex Marlow, Eric Schmitt, James Carville, Sean Spicer, Joe Biden, Caroline Levitt
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**Andrew Colvett** (1:17)
All right, welcome to The Charlie Kirk Show. It is July 16th, 2026
Blake, we got a lot to get to. This is one of the busier news days in the last couple weeks. This Joe Rogan interview between JD Vance and Joe Rogan basically dominated the Internet yesterday because they went into a lot of different topics. Let me just quickly preview the show and then we're going to break that interview down as best we can. We've got Senator Eric Schmitt on, we're going to be talking Save America Act. We're going to be talking the NDAA. A lot of people are talking about Section 219 that sort of proposes cooperation. Some are calling it a merger between Israel and the US military, sort of tech development, intel sharing. We're going to talk all about that.
Just as a preview, I'm very leery of that. Anything with any country that gives over any semblance of control or sovereignty. But let's keep an open mind. We're going to talk to Eric Schmitt about that. Then we've got Sean Spicer. We're going to go around the horn on midterms and everything that's shaping up the DSA takeover of the left. And then we've got Alex Marlow at the final half of the second hour. So a busy, busy show. Blake, why don't you just set the stage for why this JD Joe Rogan interview has taken the Internet by storm?

**Blake** (2:41)
Well, it circles back to what made the 2024 election so exceptional. President Trump and JD Vance is running mate. They ran an unconventional campaign. It evaded a lot of the traditional media, but it went to new media, which as we know is incredibly popular.
Far more people watch and listen to Joe Rogan than watch and listen to CNN on a given night. And he has a tremendous ability to especially reach younger Americans, young men that swing demographic that Charlie worked so hard to reach and that the campaign had so much success reaching. But as we know, what swung our way in 2024 has started to swing back the other way. We have people who are upset about Epstein files. We have people who are upset about Iran. We have the general tendency of young people to quickly get disillusioned with things and swing back and forth. And so there's been a lot of attention that Joe Rogan has said stuff critical of the administration. He said stuff critical of the right generally.
But we've also praised Vice President Vance. He goes into the arena. He goes where it's tough. He was on The View and now he's back on Joe Rogan. And he didn't really hold anything back. He talked about every topic you can imagine. And some of them are getting a lot of chatter, as which is what we're going to hit just now.

**Andrew Colvett** (4:03)
Well, why don't we hit the main one first here, just to make sure we get it. And this is, they're talking about Israel's influence in the US, in our political system. You see really, really dramatic reactions on both sides of this debate. So let's play the clip and we'll talk about it. Saat 26

**JD Vance** (4:22)
But I definitely think you have seen this very discreet, extremely well-funded campaign to try to derail the negotiation and try to derail the deal. And, you know, there was, again, there's this Time article that came out yesterday. A friend sent it to me.

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