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The Compound and Friends

August 14, 2026

On episode 255 of The Compound and Friends, Downtown Josh Brown and Michael Batnick are joined by Todd Sohn, Chief ETF Strategist at Baird Strategas, to discuss the record-breaking ETF boom, the rise of thematic and leveraged products, buffer and option-income ETFs, AI and compute as emerging...

Speakers Michael Batnick, Todd Sohn, Josh Brown

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Michael Batnick (0:00)

So Todd, this is like a year for you.

Todd Sohn (0:02)

Quiet on set! A year's perfect.

Even if it was two years, I don't care. Wait, what are we talking about here?

Michael Batnick (0:09)

I'm saying 2026 has been a year. Oh, you thought it meant since the last time you were on the show.

Todd Sohn (0:12)

Yeah, I don't need to.

Michael Batnick (0:14)

No, I meant 2026 like ETF of Palooza.

Todd Sohn (0:16)

Oh my God.

Michael Batnick (0:17)

Like, you are having a moment.

Todd Sohn (0:19)

It's nice. You have.

Josh Brown (0:21)

It is the biggest launch year by Ticker.

Todd Sohn (0:24)

It's gotta be up there. 900 funds, year to date.

Josh Brown (0:28)

900 new ETFs?

Todd Sohn (0:29)

Yeah, we're gonna pass last year pretty soon.

Josh Brown (0:32)

What, last year was 1,000?

Todd Sohn (0:33)

Last year was like 1,100 maybe.

Josh Brown (0:36)

Dude.

Todd Sohn (0:36)

I wish a third of them were levered, which we'll get into.

Michael Batnick (0:41)

I don't know that this is temporary.

Todd Sohn (0:44)

Well, unless you get a really bad bear market. Well, yeah, sure.

Josh Brown (0:46)

No, it's not temporary because the cost of launching is much lower, right? Yeah.

Todd Sohn (0:52)

Oh, yeah. It's like a...

Josh Brown (0:53)

And the cost of maintaining a fund that doesn't catch on.

Todd Sohn (0:56)

ETFs have turned into Napster or just like, hey, come to my shed where I have a recording studio and we'll lay down the tracks and do it for you. Everything else for you.

Michael Batnick (1:04)

It's like a mixed track.

Todd Sohn (1:05)

Yeah.

Michael Batnick (1:06)

Like you just make one for your friends.

Todd Sohn (1:07)

You just make one and you ship it out.

Josh Brown (1:10)

I was involved in two ETF launches this year in the same week. In the same week. Yes.

I didn't promote either one of them. You don't have to promote them.

Todd Sohn (1:20)

I don't need to promote them.

Josh Brown (1:21)

No, no, no. But just like as an anecdote of how much activity there is, I've never been involved in an ETF before now in this year.

Michael Batnick (1:30)

Dude, Duncan's about to launch one.

Todd Sohn (1:32)

Photography?

Photography ETF? I have books for you, by the way. If we're doing it. Are we live? Yeah, we're always live. I usually bring you real books. These are my books.

Josh Brown (1:44)

What do you mean your books? Oh, you wrote a book?

Todd Sohn (1:47)

I didn't write a book like...

Josh Brown (1:48)

Save it for the end.

Todd Sohn (1:48)

Okay.

Josh Brown (1:49)

Save it for the end.

Todd Sohn (1:50)

They're ETF related though.

Josh Brown (1:52)

Let me show you a chart. Can we put a chart up yet?

Todd Sohn (1:56)

Which one do you want?

Josh Brown (1:57)

MSGS. This is Madison Square Garden Sports.

Wait. This is the Knicks. This is the...

Dude.

Todd Sohn (2:06)

Can we... Look at this. How did I miss this? I actually wanted to talk to you about this. How are you not invested in this? The Sphere.

And can we talk about this Lakers price?

Josh Brown (2:15)

Well, that's what I wanted.

Todd Sohn (2:16)

This has nothing to do with ETFs. Lakers for $12 billion. No, no, no.

Josh Brown (2:19)

So leave this on the screen.

This... What we're looking at is the market cap and enterprise... This is the share price, but I'm saying market cap is $10 billion, enterprise value, so add back the debt, is $11 billion. If the Lakers are worth $12.4 billion, what should this stock be trading at? Understanding this is a discount because Dolan said he doesn't want to sell.

Todd Sohn (2:41)

The building is involved with this too?

Josh Brown (2:42)

I think it's the building and the Rangers.

Michael Batnick (2:45)

So they're splitting by the way. The Rangers and the Knicks are going to split.

Todd Sohn (2:47)

I understand. But you're right. This makes no sense.

Josh Brown (2:49)

This should be 30% to 50% higher right now.

Todd Sohn (2:52)

Okay.

Michael Batnick (2:52)

Are you going to buy it?

Josh Brown (2:53)

I might. I mean, look how much it's up. I feel like the biggest idiot that I'm going to own it.

Michael Batnick (2:57)

So you know it's going higher. I can't buy this either. It's too much.

Josh Brown (2:59)

MSG...

Todd Sohn (2:59)

You could buy the Braves stock.

Josh Brown (3:01)

MSG expects to complete the spinoff of the Rangers business from the Knicks into a distinct publicly traded company by the end of October.

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