Infanticide, Pharma, and Feminism | Jerm Warfare Weekly Banter

**Jerm** (0:30)
My name is Jerm, this is Jerm Warfare, the Battle of Ideas. Charles, another week without Mike, so it's just you and I again.

**Charles** (0:40)
I know, it is.

**Jerm** (0:42)
I'm sorry about this.

**Charles** (0:44)
Well, I don't think apologies are really necessary. I hope not to the audience, certainly not to you or me. And I don't think to Mike. I mean, as I made the point last week, it's great that he's got some time off.
And I have had a little bit, I know he's having a good time. So that is to be to be held in the mind front and center, and he'll be back soon enough.

**Jerm** (1:06)
I've got a very important question based on a comment that both you and I saw recently under one of our videos. Charles, why do you dye your hair?

**Charles** (1:17)
Fun enough, I have once dyed my hair for...
This could be regarded as terribly distasteful. It was for a fancy dress party absolutely years ago. And I can't even remember what the theme was. I can't quite remember why I dyed my hair, but I dyed my hair black. And the only reason that this is even mildly amusing is that I subsequently met a person who I chatted to quite a bit at that party several weeks later, by which time, it was a kind of temporary dye had washed out. And the look on this young guy's face, he knew there was something that was right about the next conversation. He knew that we'd spoken, but he was just doing the processing thing. Something has changed quite radically, and he couldn't quite work out what it was. And finally, he struck upon it. Your hair has completely changed. Assuming that black was naturally the colour of my hair and that I must have dyed it out. So yeah, anyway, there was a comment. I forget, you have to remind me. What exactly did it say? Real men...
I can't hear you now. Your sound's off.

**Jerm** (2:29)
I'm so sorry, Edmund. I'm Michael. I can't remember what topic was.

**Charles** (2:34)
Real men don't dye their hair or something like that. It was absolutely brilliant because it had nothing to do with anything that that particular recording had discussed or covered or touched on.

**Jerm** (2:47)
That should be my new tagline. Never mind the battle of ideas. Jerm Warfare. Real men don't dye their hair.

**Charles** (2:53)
Yeah, it could be. I mean, I think, keep it in reserve, you know. It's there if you need it. But it was great. It was really good.
I enjoy comments like that because they are so far removed from anything that one's really thinking about.
They're absolutely great. And it could lead into a load of stuff. In fact, on the real men stuff, the BBC World Service this morning was promoting a program called The Conversation, which I think, in fact, is traditionally a Radio 4 program. But anyway, at times, if I'm remembering correctly, it can be interesting because it involves people who have had an experience, sort of shared experience, and it's sometimes a sort of retrospective. So they'll be gathered together and they'll talk about something significant. And okay, this is the BBC. So invariably, it is going to be some sort of a mainstream topic. But nonetheless, you can't really dismiss the firsthand experience that somebody has. Obviously, the view that they will take of it might be different from yours when you listen, but still. And what we were talking about this morning was, I mean, the slant put on it was absolutely amazing, but it was this word that I'm actually still quite unfamiliar with, the Manosphere. And it was said in such terms of absolute revulsion. It seems to be based on...

**Jerm** (4:16)
I don't even know what that means.

**Charles** (4:18)
No, I tried to look at it, I don't really know, but it seems to be based on the universal, mainstream universal sort of progressive hatred of Andrew Tate and of anybody that wants to emulate either the philosophy or the lifestyle of Andrew Tate.

**Jerm** (4:37)
I've just looked it up.

**Charles** (4:38)
Yeah, okay. And I think the reason this has come about is because Louis Theroux has made a documentary about these people who apparently occupy the manuscript. As the BBC does uniquely well, they have sort of created this bracket, which now has been formalized in BBC Speak, as though it really exists, as though there's a sort of codified membership and it's absolutely bonafide a thing, as opposed to just a rather loose description, which some people may think they fit into or may want to fit into or whatever else. But it's just another interesting look behind the, I suppose, behind the screen or scene or whatever you want to say, the way that the mainstream is there to curate public opinion and sort of nudge people back onto track when they're thinking the wrong things.