I Was Charlie Kirk's Side When He Was Taken Out... | DSH #2065

**Frank Turek** (0:00)
What I actually said at Charlie's funeral memorial service that Charlie Kirk is in heaven not because he died for his savior, Charlie Kirk is in heaven because his savior died for Charlie Kirk. That's why you have gays for Gaza. Like, why don't you have gays for Gaza, right? If gays go to Gaza, they're going to be thrown off the building and be murdered. I got fired in the name of inclusion, tolerance and diversity, Sean, because...

**Sean Kelly** (0:28)
Okay, guys, we got Frank on the show today from CrossExamined Ministry, fellow Jersey boy. What's up, man, how's it going?

**Frank Turek** (0:35)
Great being with you, forget about it. I haven't lived in Jersey since I was 18, but I still have a lot of Jersey in me.

**Sean Kelly** (0:43)
Did your life get way better when you moved out at 18?

**Frank Turek** (0:47)
I went to college, and then I went in the Navy, and then I moved everywhere, and then I moved to Charlotte to attend seminary, and we stayed here. We've been in Charlotte for 33 years. I've got kids that are probably older than you.

**Sean Kelly** (0:59)
I'm 29

**Frank Turek** (1:00)
Yeah, all my kids are older than you, man.

**Sean Kelly** (1:03)
Wow. Yeah, Jersey is interesting. I think it's good for families, but with the politics now, I don't think I'd move back there.

**Frank Turek** (1:10)
The taxes aren't good either.

**Sean Kelly** (1:12)
Oh, man. Second highest, I believe, in the country.

**Frank Turek** (1:14)
Something like that. But you're in Vegas, right?

**Sean Kelly** (1:17)
Yeah. No state tax here. I'm chilling over here.

**Frank Turek** (1:19)
That's nice, man. You ain't chilling in Vegas. It's 110 degrees in the winter. Come on.

**Sean Kelly** (1:24)
Oh, man. The summer is out here. It's starting to ramp up right now. I got to get out of here.
But dude, what's the latest focus for you? I know you're doing a lot of stuff. What's the main focus these days?

**Frank Turek** (1:33)
I've been going to a lot of college campuses. We just finished our last one, University of New Mexico last week. This semester, we'll start it up again in the fall.
We tried to double up because of what happened to Charlie.

**Sean Kelly** (1:47)
Yeah.

**Frank Turek** (1:48)
Try and pick up the slack a little bit. Of course, Charlie was a phenom. We have a few hundred at our events. Charlie would have thousands, just unbelievable guy. It's so sad that he's gone.

**Sean Kelly** (2:01)
Yeah.
He was a legend. Definitely one of my favorite interviews of all time when he came on and I filmed out all his events. And he brought everyone together. It was amazing. All types of people would go to Turning Point, America Fest, all of his campus tours. Definitely one of a kind. Shout out to Charlie.

**Frank Turek** (2:17)
You've been to Amfest, Sean?

**Sean Kelly** (2:18)
Yeah, I filmed there every year. Some of my best episodes come out of there. Like I said, he connects everyone. Like so many people show up there, you know?

**Frank Turek** (2:26)
Give up on it, because it's still attracting a lot of people, despite Charlie being with Jesus right now.

**Sean Kelly** (2:32)
Yeah.

**Frank Turek** (2:33)
You know, the last Amfest was the biggest ever.

**Sean Kelly** (2:36)
It was insane. I was filming nonstop, four days straight. There was just so many good people there.

**Frank Turek** (2:43)
We've got many more events, many more colleges. Still going to colleges, you know, bringing in different people like me and others.
And they're still doing their pastor events. They're still doing their, I think, youth events this summer. And they're still going to do AmFest just before Christmas.

**Sean Kelly** (3:01)
What campuses stand out to you from? Yeah, I'll definitely be there.
What recent campuses stand out to you that you've been to?

**Frank Turek** (3:08)
Oh, Charlie and I were supposed to go together to UC Berkeley. We call it UC Berserkly. But of course, instead of Charlie going, it was me and Rob Schneider, the comedian and author. So we went there.
In the past, since Charlie, I've probably been to 20 to 25 campuses.

**Sean Kelly** (3:29)
Wow.

**Frank Turek** (3:30)
Charlie would do even more than that though. He was a machine, man. He could knock out several in a week.
He just loved being with kids and all this nonsense about calling Charlie Kirk a fascist. We know it's a common fascist tactic, Sean, to hand the microphone to your opponent while you sit there quietly, so your opponent could express himself and interact. No, the guy that shot him was the fascist.