Hungry Like The TechWolf : Jukebox is Thirsty : LinkedIn's 'Entrepreneurs R Us'
The Chad & Cheese Podcast
October 16, 2026
On the latest episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, Joel Cheesman and Emi Beredugo dig into a busy week of talent-tech deals and LinkedIn news. Acquisitions, resignations and bad decisions are back, baby!
Speakers Joel Cheesman, Emi Beredugo
TopicsCareersBusinessTechnology
Joel Cheesman (0:00)
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SPEAKER_2 (1:15)
A crummy commercial? Son of a bitch.
Emi Beredugo (1:21)
I have 25 days holiday and that is great. That is fantastic.
But I kind of used it all up in Brazil earlier this year. And I was like, oh, where am I going now? Nowhere, like just in the UK. It's like great. So I need to do better next year, basically.
Joel Cheesman (1:35)
Yeah, no one's crying for you, Emi. Don't cry.
Emi Beredugo (1:40)
I feel hurt.
Joel Cheesman (1:41)
I feel hurt. I feel triggered. I feel triggered.
I'm going on vacation. Yes. I'm going to the Poconos. Okay.
SPEAKER_5 (1:47)
Anyway.
SPEAKER_2 (1:48)
Just the tip.
Joel Cheesman (1:50)
Hide your kids.
SPEAKER_5 (1:52)
Lock the doors. You're listening to HR's most dangerous podcast. Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman are here to punch the recruiting industry right where it hurts. Complete with breaking news, brash opinion and loads of snark. Buckle up, boys and girls.
Joel Cheesman (2:07)
It's time for The Chad & Cheese Podcast.
SPEAKER_6 (2:14)
Oh, yeah.
Joel Cheesman (2:16)
Business in front, Emi in the back. What's up, everybody? It's The Chad & Cheese Podcast. I'm your co-host, Joel. Pray for the Pope Cheesman.
Emi Beredugo (2:25)
This is Emi. Please stay away from the Tigers, Beredugo.
Joel Cheesman (2:29)
On this episode of HR's most dangerous podcast, Hungry like the TechWolf, Thirsty for some Juicebox and make it as fast as humanly possible. Let's do it. It's commercial time.
SPEAKER_7 (2:42)
Okay, face it. Recruitment marketing is broken. 70% of paid recruitment media goes wasted. 93% of candidates bounce off your job ads before they even apply for the job.
And this is not a talent problem. No, it's not a data problem. It's a targeting and experience problem. The beauty of this is companies aren't trying to fix it. They're transforming it.
Joel Cheesman (3:06)
Hell yeah!
SPEAKER_7 (3:07)
With up to 80% more high quality applicants, 40% reduction in spend and 50% less recruiter time spent, they're realizing what's possible with recruitment marketing that actually works.
So how did they do it? Well, they chose Jovio, an AI-led high-performance recruitment marketing platform built to eliminate waste and drive more results. With Jovio's AI agents, your job ads reach the right candidates while your career site, conversational AI and application process drive better candidates and conversions. What about those qualified candidates you've already bought and paid for and they're wasting away in your ATS? Well, Jovio also re-engages them. Want to learn more about Jovio?
Emi Beredugo (3:52)
Cool.
SPEAKER_7 (3:53)
Just go to jovio.com. That's joveo.com. It's showtime.
Joel Cheesman (4:02)
What's up, Emi?
Emi Beredugo (4:03)
Hey, how are you doing? I feel like I haven't been on here for ages, at least a month now.
Joel Cheesman (4:08)
Yeah, you're going to have to carry the show today, because I'm three trips in four weeks, two of those being Vegas and Nashville and one to Europe. So I'm licking my wounds and trying to recover. So I hope you're spunky and ready for energy today.
Emi Beredugo (4:27)
Oh, I will try, but let me just ask you, when you say you're trying to recover, is this from jet lag or a hangover?
Joel Cheesman (4:33)
Yes.
I mean, let's hang over the day after, but I mean, it's a lot of things. I mean, the time zone change, jet lag, jet lag's not so bad in the US., when I travel in the US. I mean, the time zone, three hours. So if you're going to Vegas from the East Coast, you get up at 5 a.m. and you're like shit, and you try to go back to bed and then it's 3 o'clock in the morning and then you're just going so yeah, I mean, it's just a whole thing and I'm not, I'm not 30 anymore. So it's What are you, 35? 36? 32, 32 actually. 32, of course. Sorry. 32 with the liver of a 94 year old, but other than that.
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