Hodgetwins & Owen Benjamin Get REAL About RACE & SLAVERY In America... artwork

Hodgetwins & Owen Benjamin Get REAL About RACE & SLAVERY In America...

Hodgetwins Podcast

August 12, 2026

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Speakers: Kevin Hodge, Keith Hodge

Topics: News

**Kevin Hodge** (0:00)
I made some mistakes. Isn't it funny how people always identify with the victim? When it's like, I got a buddy who's half black, he's like, oh yeah, one of my ancestors was raped by a white man. I'm like, so that means your ancestor raped a black chick. How can we only look at one side?
You're just as related to the rape guy. Right, right, right. I don't think I descend from any slave owners, but I somehow relate to them. I'm like, we made some mistakes. It's like, Owen, you don't descend from anyone who owned land. I'm like, I do now in my head.

**Keith Hodge** (0:32)
Yeah, I was on my family ancestry, man. They traced all the way back, went back like 1600, just had his first name. And it was like this long.

**Kevin Hodge** (0:41)
Good for you, man. What's your history? Like, what happened?

**Keith Hodge** (0:44)
Family of slaves. My ancestors a lot of was slaves, but I got Irish, well, yeah.
Our great, great, great grandfather was a white dude. He had a white family and he had a black family.

**Kevin Hodge** (0:56)
Yeah.

**Keith Hodge** (0:56)
And that's how, he actually wrote a book about it. It's called The Hurstens.

**Kevin Hodge** (0:59)
Dude, I'll read that. So what did you glean from some of that history? Like, what did you learn?

**Keith Hodge** (1:04)
That my great, great grandfather, the white man from Ireland, he was crazy.

**Kevin Hodge** (1:09)
From Ireland?

**Keith Hodge** (1:10)
Like he was from Ireland? He had a white family and a black family. And back at those times, he would go out in town with his black kids and drink with them. He was a good guy.

**Kevin Hodge** (1:22)
No, it's like the Irish, imagine like the Irish were the slaves to the English forever. They're like, oh, we got new land. We can finally fucking be the slaves or the owners. Because the English, they used to just like, there was like law that when an Irishman got married, like the English guy got to bang his wife that night.

**Keith Hodge** (1:39)
Oh, that's crazy.

**Kevin Hodge** (1:40)
Yeah. That's the Braveheart shit. Like that's historical fact.
And so then they must have been like, dude, we go to America, we might be able to own somebody ourselves. Yeah.

**Keith Hodge** (1:49)
Hey, I want to bring up what Trump said about making houses affordable for everybody. He came up with an idea, the 50-year mortgage.

**SPEAKER_3** (1:57)
You know what I'm saying?

**Kevin Hodge** (1:59)
I'm pretty sure that there's a book about the 50-year mortgage that was about your family.
Think about that. Think about the spell craft of that, the 50-year mortgage.

**Keith Hodge** (2:09)
I heard that. I was like...

**Kevin Hodge** (2:11)
Is that... Am I now a slave?
You know, because if you set up for a mortgage at 20, you're talking life expectancy your whole life. You are in a slave contract. That's why it's called bondage. It's like the bond. It's like a financial instrument. Hopefully, you know, my banker is like an Irishman that can drink, you know, with his black family or me. Yeah, I mean, that's... I mean, I think that it's gonna get wild. I don't even think we've seen anything yet.

**Keith Hodge** (2:40)
Like, this is the biggest... He's got another three years.

**Kevin Hodge** (2:42)
Well, yeah, and financially, it doesn't even matter who's in. It's like this fiat bubble is insane. Like, hundreds of trillions of dollars of notes that are, like, just gonna vanish.

**Keith Hodge** (2:53)
Yeah, we're approaching 39 trillion. When Trump took off, it was close to 36 Now we're almost at 39 trillion.

**Kevin Hodge** (2:58)
And that's not including unfunded liabilities and the derivatives market. It's like literally like 300 trillion. That's why I'm telling people about silver and gold. It's like gold should be like 100,000 an ounce.

**Keith Hodge** (3:10)
Yeah, it should be. Yeah.

**Kevin Hodge** (3:12)
And so the way they can reset it is to reprice gold.
Let's say they have a few tons of gold. They're like, well, now it's worth 100,000 an ounce. We can pay off our debt and we'll start over.

**Keith Hodge** (3:22)
You think that's what's going to happen?

**Kevin Hodge** (3:24)
That's typically what happens.

**Keith Hodge** (3:25)
I'm going to buy me some fucking gold.

**Kevin Hodge** (3:27)
Just a little bit. You don't need a lot.

**Keith Hodge** (3:28)
I need just a little bit.

**Kevin Hodge** (3:29)
Just a little bit. Just a little taste. Yeah, because in Weimar, Germany and all these places, you could sell an egg and pay off all your debt.

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