Have You Started Thinking About Retirement? | Women at Work | Podcast

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**Amy Bernstein** (1:00)
Amy G, how do you think you'll introduce yourself when you're no longer a writer and contributing editor to HBR and you're no longer a co-host of this podcast and all the other things you do? I know you'll always be an author, but how else do you think you'll describe yourself?

**Amy Gallo** (1:20)
Is it bad that that question makes me want to cry? Because I don't have an answer. I mean, I don't know. I know I'll have to do a lot of work between now and that moment, whenever it is, to actually figure out what is my identity as a person post all of these work identities.
How about you? How do you think about it?

**Amy Bernstein** (1:45)
Well, it sends a chill through me. I'm a lot closer to that moment than you are.
I thought about what I would do. I so love what I do now. The idea of not doing it scares me. Right. Then I tantalize myself in quiet moments with what I could do. I could volunteer at the animal shelter, where we got one of my dogs.

**Amy Gallo** (2:13)
Right.

**Amy Bernstein** (2:14)
I could teach as if somehow anyone could go teach.

**Amy Gallo** (2:19)
You could. I'll take that course.

**Amy Bernstein** (2:22)
All right. Well, you're very generous. I could always continue to edit.
But yeah, it feels like I've got a lot of puzzle pieces, but I'm not sure they're all from the same puzzle.

**Amy Gallo** (2:33)
Right.

**Amy Bernstein** (2:34)
I don't know.

**Amy Gallo** (2:35)
That image of the puzzle pieces and some hunches, right? Like, oh, I could do this or I could do this, but not a plan.
That makes sense to me. I'm not even at the puzzle piece yet. I'm tightly gripping to my current identity and can't really imagine it going away.

**Amy Bernstein** (2:53)
Yeah. And neither can I. And I probably, given my age, should start imagining it going away.
You're listening to Women at Work from Harvard Business Review. I'm Amy Bernstein.

**Amy Gallo** (3:08)
I'm Amy Gallo. And clearly, we haven't thought enough about what comes after we stop working or come to grips with how we'll think of ourselves.
Because retirement, even semi-retirement, changes us.

**Amy Bernstein** (3:21)
Maybe you're in the same boat in your early 60s or late 40s, either avoiding the subject or feeling uneasy about it. The experts say we should actually be thinking about retirement sooner than later, Amy G. So, this episode is really for women of any age. How can we prepare ourselves to make this major life change as smoothly and successfully as possible? Don't we all want to end up active, engaged, and healthy, not bored, lost, and lonely?
Yes, please. Yes, yes. So, let's start by hearing from two women who very-

**SPEAKER_1** (4:00)
The new LinkedIn hiring pro can't undo your last hire, The No Show. Who set you back because they didn't show up on day one, or day two, or ever again. And now your product launch is delayed because you're talking to alien-abduction podcasters to track them down.
But LinkedIn hiring pro can help make sure your next hire sticks. In fact, businesses who use LinkedIn are 24% less likely to reopen a role in the next 12 months. Hire right the first time with LinkedIn hiring pro. Post a free job today at linkedin.com/quality.

**SPEAKER_2** (4:30)
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