Gypsy Rose's Brother Did WHAT at Ken Urker's Scene?!

SPEAKER_1 (0:01)

This is Hidden Killers Live with Tony Brueski and Robin Drake.

Tony Brueski (0:07)

Gypsy Rose Blanchard, Ken Urker, he was found dead in his Louisiana home on his 34th birthday.

Two weeks later, the cause of death still has not been released. Toxology results are pending. And the parish sheriff's office says foul play hasn't been ruled out. Meanwhile, leaked prison recordings reveal Gypsy Rose Blanchard once told her then-boyfriend she hoped Ken would overdose. And the one documented violent incident at that home, a knife driven into a headboard was never reported to police, but it's out there on the Internet now for everyone to partake in the enjoyment of watching someone collapse onto themselves. Bob Motta, defense attorney from Defense Diaries is with us, along with Robin Drake, retired FBI Special Agent, Chief of the Counterintelligence Behavioral Analysis Program and Master Class Instructor. Bob, what should they be investigating right now, if anything? Is this something that does look suspicious, or is this, you know, because of Gypsy's track record and because there's angry mobs out there, there's a lot of pitchforks and flames heading towards Gypsy Rose. Is that fair, or is that just, let's cross the T's and doubt the I's and make sure that there's nothing else at play here.

Bob Motta (1:23)

I mean, look, she made her choices, right? Like when she ended up getting out, she could have decided, you know what? I'm just going to get out and I'm going to live a quiet life. We're elected to do a fucking Netflix or HBO or whatever it was.

Hulu.

Whatever it was. Whoever had a camera, basically.

Robin Drake (1:42)

I am watching way too much Gypsy Rose. It is.

Bob Motta (1:46)

Oh, is this your first intro? Did you just dip in now?

Robin Drake (1:49)

Well, we did it when she first released, but dude, we've been, if I can't watch a trial because it's not state, like I can't watch a Blanchard trial just because, I mean, not Blanchard Dom, the Boston trial that we're doing, right? Because it's federal. So I have to dive in on these cases, and the only way I can dive in on Gypsy Rose is we're watching Life After Lock-Up, and I've got to tell you, this is horrible.

This has been my life for the last week, and it is absolutely horrible. This is no fun TV, man.

Bob Motta (2:18)

No, man.

It's really not. What are you going to say to you?

Tony Brueski (2:22)

You watch it and you go, I'm not surprised. I mean, I'm not at all. I'm not at all surprised any of this happened.

But is there, I mean, Bob, like from a legal standpoint, when you're looking at this, is this, I mean, what should be going on right now? What do you think is going on right now in terms of an investigation to determine behind the scenes? If you were the family of Ken Urker right now, what would you want authorities to be looking at here?

Bob Motta (2:48)

I think at this point, I mean, we know that there's a talk screen that's pending, right? Until that comes back, I don't know what else you can be doing. I mean, I don't know if they went in and processed the scene properly. Again, we're going to probably have to deal with that shit. It's like, it seems to be a running theme with almost every case we cover. Ultimately, I think that talk screen answer is going to push this thing one way or another, right? So because I think that there's some thoughts that he OD'd.

We're going to need to see how that turns out. If he had an exceptional amount of whatever drug it may have been in his system, maybe it leans that way, right? So I think until you get that talk screen, from the defense attorney side of it, I'm saying, look, we got to wait till the talk screen comes out. Can you go and ask questions? Of course. They probably should. I mean, our memory is fresher, the closer in time, am I going? If you're asking me if I'm a cop and not a defense attorney, I'm going around asking a bunch of fucking questions to a lot of people. Where were you? I'm getting timelines down, I'm assuming the worst, hoping for if there is a best in the situation. You have to get people's alibis, you have to know where they were, and you have to vet them. I think that on the front end, that's the least that you should be doing. You owe it to the public who you are paid to protect and serve.