🏉 FULL INTERVIEW | Pat Carrigan Gives Susie a Rub Down

**Susie O'Neill** (0:19)
Good morning.

**Pat Carrigan** (0:20)
Morning guys, how are you?

**Susie O'Neill** (0:21)
Can I ask a hair question?

**David Lutteral** (0:22)
Because my son... Me or him?

**Susie O'Neill** (0:26)
Patty, my son, boy's hair just smells and I was just looking at your long locks and do you wash it regularly? And does it smell like a boy?

**Ash Bradnam** (0:34)
I don't reckon you do wash it regularly. It's not because it looks dirty. I just don't think you need to.

**Pat Carrigan** (0:38)
Yeah, I don't wash it as regularly as... As a girl? Yeah, if I said to you how often I wash it, I reckon you'd be like frowned upon, but I don't wash it like a young guy every like 12 months. No, I wash it every day.
But like, we are...

**Ash Bradnam** (0:52)
Okay, I'm like once a month.

**Pat Carrigan** (0:54)
Yeah, once a week or two weeks.

**Ash Bradnam** (0:56)
Yeah. Once a month?

**Pat Carrigan** (0:57)
Yeah.

**David Lutteral** (0:58)
Even I do more than that.

**Pat Carrigan** (0:59)
Yeah, people think...

**Ash Bradnam** (1:01)
And my head is fine, it doesn't smell, it's soft, like...

**Pat Carrigan** (1:04)
Yeah, we... It's pretty crazy because we train that much, so you have like four showers a day, to be honest.
I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing, but like, yeah, I'm like, I don't know, if I was washing it that frequently, I feel like I'd be...

**Kip Wightman** (1:17)
Yeah, you'd lose a little colour.

**Ash Bradnam** (1:18)
Yeah, it would be so soft, it would be almost annoying.

**Pat Carrigan** (1:21)
Yeah, exactly. It's probably just starting to fall out from chemicals.

**Ash Bradnam** (1:25)
Actually, while we're on the topic of you, someone texted in Paddy on the text line, Terita texted us, we have a text line, they can get involved anytime. She just texted this this morning, I have a question for Paddy when he comes in.
Why does he only tuck one side of his shorts in during a game? Is it a superstitious thing? Because he's always done it.

**Pat Carrigan** (1:43)
It's like literally, I get this question a little bit, I don't know, it's just the left side. I feel like maybe I'm right-footed, so my right foot's back more often, like if you got to take off, I don't know, like a sprint, but more often now it's my right side. So I just like, it's like Renault, Renault leaves his...

**Ash Bradnam** (1:58)
The strings out.

**Pat Carrigan** (1:59)
Yeah, he strings out. It looks annoying. Yeah, I don't know why he does that.

**David Lutteral** (2:02)
Was you only tucking one side of your...

**Pat Carrigan** (2:04)
No, I don't remember doing that, but I've seen old footage of when I was, I must have done it, it's almost like a tick for me. I just have to do it. And it's just the left side. So I curl the shorts when I'm sitting there. I don't know why.
Maybe it's a sensory problem. But yeah, I'm there like, I don't know why. I never started it for any reason, no superstition, but now it's just subconsciously like, yeah, must be a comfort for me on the field. Yeah, that is for me.

**Susie O'Neill** (2:30)
Heaps of sports people do that. Like I just watched the Raffer documentary and he has heaps of ticks.

**Pat Carrigan** (2:35)
Oh my God, Raffers is like...

**Susie O'Neill** (2:37)
It's mental.

**Pat Carrigan** (2:37)
Yeah, especially when you watch you serve and like if something happens or like the outside, I can't imagine tennis, but the outside noise, he has to restart the whole routine.

**Susie O'Neill** (2:45)
It's like underpants out, isn't it?

**Pat Carrigan** (2:46)
Yeah, undies, undies, legs, legs, one side, one side, eyebrows. Yeah.

**David Lutteral** (2:50)
So, Susie, was there anything you tucked in or tucked out or...

**Pat Carrigan** (2:52)
No.

**David Lutteral** (2:53)
when you were swimming?

**Susie O'Neill** (2:54)
No, no, no, I didn't have any of those weird ticks. I do now. I have a lot of them, but none back then.

**Ash Bradnam** (2:58)
As you've gotten old, you've got more weird ticks.

**Susie O'Neill** (3:00)
I look at the clock. If I say something that I feel like is going to be bad, for some reason I look at the clock.

**Pat Carrigan** (3:04)
Did you listen to music or anything?

**Susie O'Neill** (3:06)
I didn't like a lot of music because when I'm nervous, I hate being over-stimulated.

**Ash Bradnam** (3:12)
Sometimes in here, if there's too many people in the studio, Susie will just leave because it's too over-stimulating.