Friendly Fire: Defeating Doomerism, Defending America & Ending Time Zones

**SPEAKER_1** (0:01)
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**Ben Domenech** (0:27)
I have a question. Are we supposed to literally do 15 minutes on Joe Biden's book and Trump coin? Because that sounds hellishly stupid.
I have no idea how you sustain that. Also.

**SPEAKER_3** (0:42)
Go ahead.

**Ben Domenech** (0:43)
I mean, okay. Well, I mean, you know where I'm going to take it.

**Andrew Klavan** (0:47)
I can't even do 15 minutes on Wokana, I think that's me.

**SPEAKER_3** (0:50)
Yeah.

**Ben Domenech** (0:50)
Now, I'm going to take it directly to the struggle session for Michael. I mean, last week was a bad moment. Michael.

**Michael Knowles** (0:59)
It was a great, frankly, it was a good time to be on vacation, which I was all week. But no, I'm actually, I'm on board with this stage of this whole saga, I think is great because it's like, that it actually does go along. Well, we'll get into it on the show. But it gets into my thesis that the thing that's going to, the thing that will stop all the crazy theories is just going to be like the courts, and it's going to be like actual acts that occur.
And what was crazy to me about the preliminary hearing was not even all the evidence from the prosecution. It was the defense. It was like the defense had very weak moves, wasn't bringing up any of the conspiracy theories and explicitly rejected those theories. So you're like, at that point, you're like, is the defense in on it too?

**Ben Domenech** (1:47)
Is Tara Wadison in on it? I think it was the combo of that. And also, I mean, I will say that the shift to mockery was definitely a big thing.

**Michael Knowles** (1:58)
Yeah.

**Ben Domenech** (1:58)
Because I think that we had to get to a place where we could move beyond the how evil it is for this person to be doing this to how absurd and retarded all of this is, because it is just so retarded. We got and I think that we may be getting back into the world of actual humor, which is going to be nice. I mean, it feels like it's been about a 10 year period since you were allowed to make jokes. Yeah, yeah, it is so I'm very much. I'm very much into the idea that we're allowed to make jokes about things again. It was like only a particular type of joke that you could tell. And remember during like the Obama era, you couldn't tell jokes about Obama. It was real bad. Like he was the sainted one and you could never tell jokes about him. And then during the Trump era, you could only tell certain types of jokes surrounding President Trump, but not really, like he couldn't make fun of President Trump when he said a dumb thing or something because that would be a sign that you were with the liberal elites.
And now I think we're kind of getting beyond all of that. And we're going back to a certain semblance of normalcy where you can just make fun of retardation wherever it exists. Yeah, that I think is a good thing.

**Andrew Klavan** (2:58)
I must have missed this period where you couldn't make jokes. I may not have been paying attention. I'm not sure.

**Ben Domenech** (3:04)
Well, that's usual.

**Michael Knowles** (3:05)
No, we're back. It's like the 2000s are back. We've got Congress fighting to pass a budget. We've got a war in the Middle East. We can make jokes again. We're back, baby. This is it. And you know what? We're back on friendly fire.
Ba-dum-bum, ba-dum-bum. Yeah. So, okay, just off the bat, they want us to talk about this Joe Biden book. But if we were to do that, we would be the only people talking about the Joe Biden book, including Joe Biden.
I'm kind of like hearing it for the first time. Joe Biden has a book out.

**Andrew Klavan** (3:44)
I know. The jokes kind of write themselves, but they're not that good. That's the problem.

**Ben Domenech** (3:49)
Well, the auto pen writes the jokes as well as Joe Biden.

**SPEAKER_6** (3:52)
The auto pen writes the jokes as well as Joe Biden.

**Ben Domenech** (3:55)