Fighter vs. Writer: Matt Brown Reacts to Dana White Claiming Alex Pereira Could Become GOAT, UFC White House Picks and Predictions

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**Damon Martin** (1:58)
Welcome back to The Fighter vs. The Writer. I'm Damon Martin. He is UFC legend, Matt Brown. And Matt, we have finally arrived at UFC White House Fight Week, which means we're actually recording this on a Monday. We'll be recording our podcast next week on a Monday as well because the fights are on Sunday, which is a weird timing for us. But it is finally UFC White House Week. Have you let the excitement wash over you, Matt?

**Matt Brown** (2:20)
Well, we'll see if that happens. There's a lawsuit now, right?

**Damon Martin** (2:23)
Yeah, I think it's pretty sure it's gonna happen.

**Matt Brown** (2:26)
No, it's gonna happen, but no, I think it's pretty exciting, man. I mean, I interviewed Campbell MacLaren last week on my podcast, and it was pretty, people don't know who Campbell is. He was one of the UFC founders, one of the original guys with Art Davies and Horty and Gracie and those. And he was right there with that crew. But, you know, it kind of put it into perspective when I was interviewing him and talking about, you know, the hard days of the UFC had at the beginning.
And it's went all the way from being banned on cable, you know, a French sport that was for, you know, VHS's and for, I don't know, the underground more or less, to being on the White House lawn. Regardless of your politics, whether you love Donald Trump, hate him, you know, this is political, it's not political, whatever the fuck, they're on the White House lawn. That's pretty badass.

**Damon Martin** (3:15)
It is pretty cool. Like I said, I don't care how you paint it. It's pretty cool. Like who could have imagined this like a decade ago even? Like even then, like, Connor was like the biggest star in the world in 2016 That was when Connor was at the peak of his powers and like everybody knew Connor McGregor, Ronda Rousey, so on and so forth. Even then no one would be like, oh yeah, we're gonna do a card in the White House lawn. Like it's just, it sounds ridiculous. But yeah, I mean, listen, the problem is, I think here's the problem is, is like, you know, when Dana, when Dana comes out and says it's not political, I come to, it just makes people roll their eyes and be like, dude, come on, like you're best friends with Donald Trump. It's never happened before. It's not like you can build a football field and decide to do an NFL game on the White House lawn. Like he did it for you guys because he loves you. And by the way, like, I mean, that's like it or not, that's how things work, right? Like you're friends with somebody, you're close with somebody, they give you opportunities, they don't give other people.
But like the whole non-political thing, like just embrace it, dude. Like I'm not saying you need to like, because I actually thought about sending an email.
I don't know, I'm not, I know you're not a huge political guy. I honestly am not either. But there is a congresswoman from Minnesota named Ilhan Omar. You know what I'm talking about? Okay. She's a big combat sports fan. I remember there was a UFC event like two years ago, three years ago, maybe, I can't remember, maybe it was during the pandemic or something, but she had tweeted about it. I was like, what the, I was like, what the? She's, and I tweeted back and she responded. She's like, yeah, I'm a huge MMA boxing fan. I was like, whoa, like just, you know, like someone you wouldn't see, like expected to be a boxing or MMA fan. And I know she was, you know, she was asking questions during the whole Oliac thing. But I thought about asking her, like, did you get a personal invite to go? Because like, she's a fan, like a legit fan, but she's obviously a very big Democrat and not Donald Trump's favorite person. And I was like, if this is not political, shouldn't she be like getting one of the first invites? Like she's a legit fan. Like not taking, I don't care if you agree with her, disagree with her, just like we're talking about. Like what do you disagree or disagree with Donald Trump? I know she's like a legit fight fan. She's tweeted about it, I was like, her, really? Okay. So if she didn't get an invite and just sit front row because she is, I mean, she's a congresswoman, that to me is like, well, there's proof that this is political. However you want to cut it because I know she's a legit fight fan. Why is she, if she's not sitting front row on Sunday, if she's not sitting front row on Sunday, or at least get the invite and turned it down, which who knows?