Episode 580: Sexual Harry Potter

SPEAKER_1 (0:00)

But eventually, you get to the point where the AIs are much, much, much more powerful. They are running the robots, they are running the factories, they don't actually need the humans, and once they don't need the humans, the humans are discarded.

Young Chomsky (0:14)

That's scary. Yeah, yeah.

Liz (0:48)

Hello, everyone. Hi.

Young Chomsky (0:49)

Hi.

Liz (0:50)

I'm Liz.

Young Chomsky (0:50)

I'm producer Young Chomsky.

Liz (0:52)

And this is True Anon. Hello.

Young Chomsky (0:54)

Hello.

Liz (0:55)

Hello.

I want to apologize in advance. I just got a spam risk missed call. I want to apologize in advance.

Young Chomsky (1:04)

My favorite way to apologize.

Liz (1:06)

Not because of anything racial that I said.

Young Chomsky (1:09)

No.

Liz (1:10)

Which, you're welcome. Or, I'm sorry, depending on... We've got a diverse listener base. It takes all kinds. We contain multitudes.

I want to apologize for sexualizing Harry Potter.

Young Chomsky (1:24)

I think I started to sexual Harry Potter.

Liz (1:27)

I want to be clear. We did not sexualize Harry Potter, even though I just said we did.

Young Chomsky (1:31)

Others have.

Liz (1:32)

I don't know if others have.

Young Chomsky (1:34)

I assume.

Liz (1:35)

But there's discussion of Harry Potter in this. And I believe that's an info hazard.

Young Chomsky (1:43)

That is a great definition of an info hazard.

Liz (1:46)

Can we talk about that? Because we didn't talk about info hazards. Info hazards? What is an info hazard?

Young Chomsky (1:50)

It's when somebody says sexual Harry Potter and now that lives rant free, as it were, in your brain and you can't scrub it out.

David Z. Morris (1:56)

You can't get rid of it.

Liz (1:57)

And that is why humanity is going to die. Something like that?

Young Chomsky (2:04)

Later today, you'll be folding the laundry and you'll be thinking, I feel like sexual Harry Potter. Oh, boy.

Liz (2:14)

I'm sorry. I really, there are moments in this interview where it just was in my head and I couldn't stop thinking about it.

David Z. Morris (2:23)

It really was an info hazard.

Liz (2:25)

I info hazard myself. And actually, I do think that that is the problem with these people.

Young Chomsky (2:34)

What is?

Liz (2:36)

That they drink their own Kool-Aid.

Young Chomsky (2:38)

They drink their own piss.

Liz (2:39)

Well, none of my business what they're into.

Young Chomsky (2:42)

I think that's a, yeah.

Liz (2:43)

Yeah, sure. You've got a human centipede situation.

Young Chomsky (2:45)

Exactly.

Liz (2:47)

It's kind of, I've talked about Elon in this way, where you sort of like are radicalized by your own excrement.

Young Chomsky (2:54)

Circle jerk.

Liz (2:55)

Yeah, circle jerk. Also, that is kind of LLM-esque, or at least early iteration of, but the rationalist community, the E-

Young Chomsky (3:09)

EAC.

Liz (3:12)

No. EAC is the accelerationist side. What we're talking about is the effect of altruist side, the EA.

Young Chomsky (3:21)

It's in the game.

Liz (3:22)

Yeah.

All the types that we're talking about today. It's like they, yeah, they continue to feed off of their own philosophical...

Young Chomsky (3:37)

Droppings.

Liz (3:38)

Droppings, thank you. And produce crazier and crazier shit.

Young Chomsky (3:43)

Yes.

Liz (3:43)

That then they eat and, you know, we continue. The cycle continues, human centipede style. And now we're all just living in that shit.

Young Chomsky (3:51)

Yes. That's a beautiful illustration.

Liz (3:56)

It's better than sexual Harry Potter.

David Z. Morris (3:58)

Yeah. Is it?

Liz (4:00)

Everyone, we have David Z. Morris here to help us excavate all of this. Splunk into the dark cave.

Young Chomsky (4:11)

We don't say Splunk.

They say caving. I've been told this is very... I feel like we've talked about this.

Liz (4:17)

Listen, I'm not...

Young Chomsky (4:18)

I like to say Splunk.

Liz (4:19)

My ass is not saying caving. You cannot take Splunk from me.

Young Chomsky (4:24)

I agree that it is a great word.

Liz (4:26)

I agree. And it's so evocative.

Young Chomsky (4:27)

I'm just saying I've been chastised.

Liz (4:29)

I don't care.

Young Chomsky (4:30)

Like in the caving community.

Liz (4:32)

Chastise me. I don't care.

Young Chomsky (4:35)

This is...

Liz (4:37)

You can't take a word like Splunk.

Young Chomsky (4:39)

Yeah.

Liz (4:40)

Splunk. It is one of the best words we have.

Young Chomsky (4:43)

You're making it like just one syllable.

Liz (4:45)

Well, it's Splunk.

Young Chomsky (4:46)

Yeah, that's how I...

Liz (4:47)

I understand.

Young Chomsky (4:50)

Splunk.

Liz (4:52)

I can say it however I want.