Episode 577: Full Court Press
TRUE ANON TRUTH FEED
September 14, 2026
Pablo Torre joins to talk about the DOJ investigation into Kawhi Leonard’s Aspiration deal, Steve Ballmer, and the business of sports journalism. We talk ESPN, billionaire reputation management, and investigative work in the content economy.
Speakers Brace Belden, Liz Franczak, Yung Chomsky, Pablo Torre
Brace Belden (0:00)
Okay, so what is the $64,000 question? Holy cow, I'm going to have to tough it up now. Here we go. What's the $64,000 question for the field? What is the most asked question that I've received this week? What the hell are we supposed to do about .NET, Steve?
It's a very good question, and it's got a very, very clear answer.
The key to .net. Key to industry transformation, the key to success is developers, developers, developers, developers, developers, developers, developers, developers, developers.
Liz Franczak (1:14)
Hello, hello, hello, hello.
Yung Chomsky (1:15)
Hello, Liz.
Liz Franczak (1:16)
Hello. You said my name already, but I'm Liz.
Yung Chomsky (1:20)
I'm producer Young Chomsky.
Liz Franczak (1:23)
This is True Anon. Hello.
Yung Chomsky (1:25)
Hello.
Liz Franczak (1:27)
Here's a little note to our listeners. A little note. We're doing another basketball episode, and I'm sorry, but I'm not sorry.
Yung Chomsky (1:33)
I'm not sorry either.
Liz Franczak (1:34)
I'm not sorry. Here's the thing. This story isn't just about basketball.
Yung Chomsky (1:38)
No.
Liz Franczak (1:38)
And you know that now because you just listened to it.
Yung Chomsky (1:41)
Me?
Liz Franczak (1:41)
Yes.
Yung Chomsky (1:42)
That's true. Yeah.
I'll tell you what, I went into this thinking, basketball, there's nothing more to it than the scratch and the scratch of the basketball shoe and the basketball court.
Liz Franczak (1:53)
Wow. Look at that.
Yung Chomsky (1:54)
The net, the ball, you know, but.
Liz Franczak (1:56)
All the things that people say.
Yung Chomsky (1:58)
Who would have thunk? It goes so much deeper. Quite a rabbit hole. You got, first of all, Steve Ballmer is a guy, when I think of Steve Ballmer, I picture him in 1999 sweating disgustingly through his blue shirt on the Microsoft stage, screaming. I mean, he was famous for this. Famously. For quite some time.
Liz Franczak (2:16)
It's kind of like the Howard Dean of the .com era.
Yung Chomsky (2:20)
He was a very Howard Dean character with his recorded shrieking and wailing, unbecoming of a person of-
Liz Franczak (2:27)
You know, he never dropped that.
Yung Chomsky (2:29)
Yeah. And you know what? I do have to respect that.
Liz Franczak (2:32)
He did. I will say he leaned into it in a way that I think is unexpected. And yet shows the confidence of a bald man.
Yung Chomsky (2:41)
Yes. If maybe if Howard Dean had been bald, it wouldn't have derailed.
Liz Franczak (2:45)
I do think it's unappreciated what it does for someone to say, This is me.
This is me. I'm bald. This is me. I've made a choice. Yeah. And world watch out.
Yung Chomsky (2:59)
And just like a heavyset fellow.
Liz Franczak (3:03)
Well, I'm sure I do get a yo-yo sense from him.
Yung Chomsky (3:06)
That he's been up and down.
Liz Franczak (3:07)
It's an up and down situation, I think.
Yung Chomsky (3:09)
Like an Oprah.
Liz Franczak (3:10)
Yes. Always. That's all who I always think of with the yo-yo. Famous.
But yeah, the sheen, the sweaty sheen. You know, it's something that, you know, I mentioned this when we were just talking to Pablo, but Ballmer is always, you know, at every game. Not just at the Clippers games, but you know, traveling as well. And they cut to him, and it's just like the same exact face from that Microsoft keynote or whatever it was. And it's funny. And I do sort of, when you have an iconic look, you got to just stick to it. You know, it's like I move away from bangs and I always go back.
Yung Chomsky (3:49)
Well, and I was going to say too, I guess it's pretty close cropped at this point. But a bald man these days, like it used to be different to be bald, right? And I know we've talked about baldness.
Liz Franczak (4:01)
You know what? It used to be different to be bald.
Yung Chomsky (4:03)
Well, because he was bald in the 90s, but he had the sides were quite shaggy.
Liz Franczak (4:08)
I do feel like the 90s were a big era for the bald.
Yung Chomsky (4:12)
But again, by bald that meant something different, right? Because he's bald on top with hair on the sides and you just don't see that. Because nowadays guys will be like, oh, I'm doing like a Jason Statham, the rock, I'm shaving it. Or they go to Turkey, whatever. So they're not really rocking the Norwood as it were.
Liz Franczak (4:29)
The Costanza.
Yung Chomsky (4:31)
Exactly. That's just somewhat gone extinct.
Liz Franczak (4:33)
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