Episode #2270: Hammer and Nigel Full Show
Hammer + Nigel Show Podcast
September 18, 2026
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Speakers Nigel, Jason Hammer, David Steffanoff, Bob, Donnell, Allison
TopicsNews
Nigel (0:00)
Hammer and Nigel.
SPEAKER_2 (0:01)
You believe these characters?
Nigel (0:02)
They're weird of us.
Ha ha ha, yeah! My name is Nigel, Jason Hammer is here. Taking the show out on the road, the suburban indie home and outdoor living show. 10 year anniversary, baby, here at Grand Park in Westfield. What an honor to be part of this. I don't know what anniversary this is for you and I. Three or four, at least, Hammer, broadcasting out here for opening day at the suburban indie home show out at Grand Park and what a blast. What an amazing event.
Jason Hammer (0:36)
And they have so many vendors here offering unbelievable deals. So if you're working right now and you're listening to us going, man, that sounds amazing, but I can't get there, get here tomorrow, get here on Sunday.
Nigel (0:50)
Buy those tickets online, just seven bucks.
Jason Hammer (0:52)
Parking is free, tickets are cheap. And if you're thinking about doing anything to the homestead, this is the place. And they've got everything from like renovation to your deck, to swimming pools, to hot tubs, to booze, to chocolate. We know this because we've hit all of those booths before we went on the air today.
Nigel (1:13)
We've got the mattress people right across from us here. We do. We do.
Jason Hammer (1:17)
Over 200 home exterior interior experts are here.
Tons of vendors, and a lot of them are local. So you're going to get the absolute best deals, and tickets are cheap. Like, I spend more when I go to the gas station every morning, when I get a couple beverages and something to eat, than the cost of admission to get into here, which could save you hundreds, if not thousands, of dollars.
Nigel (1:44)
I love that they stuck us next to the tastings patio, where all the booze is. Like, there's literally a sign that says, free cocktails, with an arrow pointing, like, right towards us. It's great.
Jason Hammer (1:59)
I think they were expecting us. I think they know us a little too well, and they set us up right next to a place that could come in handy, hint, hint, for Beer Sample Friday.
Nigel (2:12)
As a matter of fact, why don't you finish out the rest of this segment? I'm gonna take the headphones off and go over there and see what the free cocktails are about.
Jason Hammer (2:19)
Let's get you up to date on some things happening around the country.
President Trump gearing up for his big one-on-one with President Xi of China next week. They're meeting Wednesday, and it sounds like President Trump is going to greet him at the Andrews Air Force Base, the Joint Base, and they're going to be having discussions about AI and some other things, but AI is going to be the big topic.
Nigel (2:46)
Well, I think that's got to be the topic, because we want to beat China's ass in every way, shape, or form in this race for AI.
And I don't care. I don't think AI is going to kill anybody in 10 years. I don't think anything like that is going to happen. As a matter of fact, I mean, the way you and I use AI, or I guess I should say, you use AI, it's pretty harmless.
Jason Hammer (3:12)
Right now, the United States is beating China in the race of Nigel making out with Whoopi Goldberg videos. You're welcome, United States. You're welcome.
Nigel (3:21)
I always love it, though, whenever I hear these guys that have left all these giant corporations that do AI, yeah, it's going to kill people in 10 years, but they never describe how it's going to kill people. Is it going to be some sort of T2 type of thing? Is it like Terminator 2 or Skylark or Skydance or Skynet or whatever it's called?
Is it going to simultaneously or unilaterally take over the nuclear weapons in this country? I don't think that's the way it works.
Jason Hammer (3:57)
You know what AI stinks at?
Gambling. Because last week, I ran a bunch of simulations on AI. Not only ChatGPT, but Grok as well and others. And I asked them to do a thousand simulations on the games that I bet on. AI lost every one of them last week, Nigel, every freaking one of them. So when we do the gambling segment coming up, I'm going back to good old-fashioned gambling me. Because I feel like that's a heck of a lot better chance of us succeeding than going with what technology has to offer.
Nigel (4:31)
And I just follow you on this. So you're telling me I was following the AI algorithms or the AI outcomes?
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