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El-Sayed's Islam + Jack Smith’s Biden Lawfare

The Charlie Kirk Show

September 30, 2026

Abdul El-Sayed is the new Democrat standard-bearer, aiming to be America's first Muslim senator (and eventually, president). Yet he's also downplaying his own Islam -- so what should we believe? Islam apostate Ridvan Aydemir gives his insights.

Speakers Charlie Kirk, Andrew Surabian, Blake Rutherford, Julie Kelly, Jack Smith, Abdul El-Sayed, Chuck Grassley, Newt Gingrich, Rich Baris, Jesse Watters, Martha Knight

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Charlie Kirk (0:03)

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Andrew Surabian (1:17)

All right. Welcome, everybody.

It is September 30th, 2026 I'm back in Phoenix.

Charlie Kirk (1:24)

For one day.

Andrew Surabian (1:25)

I'm grateful to be back. I'm going to be off for the rest of the week, actually. Blake's going to be holding it down. But don't worry. He's got some great stuff in store for you. But I'm here today, and we got so much news to cover. My goodness. And I wasn't planning on leading with this. And then as news started accumulating, I had to get into it more and more. We're going to have Julie Kelly on in just a second. Oh, we do have Julie.

Blake Rutherford (1:47)

All right. All right. Let's honor her time. Never mind.

Andrew Surabian (1:50)

We're going to get into this story, though, at least in the second segment of this near terror attack in, I guess they landed in Saudi Arabia. Crazy story. We're going to get into that in just a second, because it's blowing up. But right now we have Julie Kelly on the show, the author of The Declassified Substack. You've got to check her out. It's been too long, Julie. Welcome.

Julie Kelly (2:10)

I know. Hey, Andrew, thanks for having me on.

Andrew Surabian (2:13)

All right. So we are honored to have you. We covered this story with Senator Eric Schmidt yesterday. Next thing I know, my phone is blown up. All these reporters are like, Hawks, Hawkeye, Iowa, Atlanta.

So we got to go into it because you and I spoke on the phone, and it's frustrating because there were some actual bombshells here of tying Jack Smith to Fannie Wallace and this whole DOJ conspiracy, let's call it that. But there was a moment where it basically got confused. And so I asked Senator Schmidt about it, and it turns out that there was a mistake. They thought it was the Hawks in Atlanta, but it was actually the Hawkeyes, Iowa, Caitlin Clark, all this stuff. Explain what happened there, but then explain the larger story that might be at risk of getting lost in the midst of that little faux pas.

Julie Kelly (3:06)

So it looks like Eric Schmidt, Senator Schmidt and his staff were trying to tie Jack Smith to Fannie Wallace and Nathan Wade, and the timing of when that RICO indictment went down in, I believe it was 2024

Andrew Surabian (3:28)

Yes.

Julie Kelly (3:28)

The indictment went down before that, but anyway, trying to tie Jack Smith to Fannie Wallace and Nathan Wade by saying that Jack Smith attended an Atlanta Hawks basketball game in early 2024

Jack Smith looked very puzzled, was here to be trying to jog his memory, and then he said, no, it was an Iowa Hawkeyes basketball game. I believe it was in Iowa, and so that was a little bit of egg on their face. But unfortunately, Andrew, it did give the media, which is always so quick, to protect and defend Jack Smith and his team of thugs, gave them a diversion that they needed to, yes, look away from all the latest developments.

Blake Rutherford (4:16)

Well, let's probe at that, so it's a diversion. It's unfortunate, big, unfortunately, a real screw up from their team, and that's a bummer, but what are they diverting from? What should our focus be on in this story?

Julie Kelly (4:29)

Well, before we move on, I do want to say, and Andrew and I discussed this, we have plenty of evidence of the Biden White House and Biden DOJ being in cahoots with Fannie Willis and Nathan Wade to concoct that Rico case against the president and a few dozen other Trump officials. So it wasn't totally far fetched for Senator Schmidt to try to confront Jack Smith to see if the special counsel's office also had been in cahoots, which of course the same DOJ officials and White House officials who were involved in the initial investigations that Jack Smith took over, we know again we're working with Fulton County on that prosecution. So it wasn't totally outlandish, but unfortunately didn't go over as planned. But yes, what I did post in, Andrew, I saw that you reposted this is Senator Ted Cruz confronting Jack Smith about subpoenas and the investigation into organizations, including TP USA. And I thought his answer there was stunning and confirmed that the special counsel's office under Arctic Frost, so this was the third criminal investigation into the president related to January 6th, was going to ensnare hundreds or did ensnare hundreds of groups, MAGA-aligned groups, conservative groups, and individual influencers, etc.

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