Did Bryan Kohberger Schedule Himself Around A Camera?

**SPEAKER_1** (0:01)
This is Hidden Killers Live with Tony Brueski and Robin Drake.

**Tony Brueski** (0:08)
Kohberger's statement went to the New York Times on a Sunday night, and he filed his petition on a Monday. And surprise, surprise, I find this interesting. A new three-part Netflix documentary is being dropped today, actually, out there about Kohberger. It's very, very victim focused. It's not super focused on him. The director even said that himself.
I'm wondering about the timing here. Shavaun Scott, psychotherapist and author with myself and Robin Drake, retired FBI special agent. Shavaun, what's your thoughts on that?
He has a community. He has the pro-burgers that he's seemingly communicating with or at least getting information in from and people saying, we believe in your innocence and all that bullshit. I'm wondering, on the timing here, do you think he saw, okay, there's an, I guess the question is, how much do you think he's monitoring media around him from behind bars on a tablet or whatever access he has? And then how much is he choosing his plays based on the kerfuffle out there in the environment about him?

**Shavaun Scott** (1:19)
Yeah, it would make perfect sense. What else is he doing, you know, other than monitoring what everybody is saying about him? And with this documentary coming out, which I hadn't heard of, but the timing is very suspect that he wants his version of the story out there. So people are focused in on him again, and he can be the, you know, the unjustly accused hero here.

**Robin Drake** (1:49)
And probably, Tony, I'm going to throw my own conjecture in there too. You know, with this special coming out, I haven't watched it yet. I don't know what you want me to watch.

**Shavaun Scott** (1:56)
Neither, no.

**Robin Drake** (1:56)
We watch all the things that are horrendous on Netflix.

**Tony Brueski** (1:59)
Yeah, it's viewing for to go to bed to tonight for me.

**Robin Drake** (2:02)
Yes, but I'd imagine part of that is because the Goncalves completely eviscerated him at his sentencing, and they didn't play the victim, they made him the victim in that. I imagine that, again, I don't think he premeditates anything. I think he's too much of an idiot to be able to do that.
I think he's just reacting to the world around him as that broken brain of his does. I think this is the way he's just reacting. It's like, hey, it's them. Oh, I got to get them. I think it's just a reactionary. He found out about the special, and this is just him going at it as soon as he found out about it.

**Shavaun Scott** (2:38)
Makes sense.

**Tony Brueski** (2:40)
Yeah, I mean, if it's not all about him, I mean, it makes you wonder. I mean, I highly doubt he got a screener of it. Like, hey, check out this new doc that's about you. But it does make you wonder what's going on in his mind now that more than a year has passed since his sentencing and his guilty plea.
When you've written The Minds of Mass Killers, Shavaun, let's talk a little bit about these minds. Let's talk a little about these minds and how they react after the show is done, after the court drama is done, which I'm still surprised he didn't go to trial for, considering the attention that it would garner. But now he's saying he was bamboozled and he was railroaded into this and whatever and his family, whatever. I mean, there's a lot of thoughts there. How often do we see people in this situation, mass killers, decide that the narrative that they went down, that I did this or I'm found guilty, whatever, and then decide, you know what? I don't like that narrative anymore. I'm just going to change it up. Is this common in the world of mass killers?

**Shavaun Scott** (3:58)
I don't think it's common for someone to plead guilty and then come back and say, oops, you know, that was all wrong. I didn't mean it or whatever. We've got a different story now. But they do like attention and they like the focus on them. And often what we've seen with quite a few of them, I mean like Henry Lee Lucas, they'll come up with victims, you know, a list of victims that keeps expanding because it's more and more attention.
And, you know, giving the interviews, getting the books written about them, which I think they get this really perverse pleasure in. So I think the attention seeking is the common piece.

**Robin Drake** (4:41)
Yeah. And that's what my theory on with Rex Heuerman is. He's using information as his only currency left to keep the attention on him, kind of like BTK did. You know, Dennis Rader don't want to give him the props for, you know, the BTK title. But they were able to then trickle out when they felt that attention was waning. And since Kohberger didn't have time to develop into a serial killer, there was no more information to give. So the only way he can keep that attention is to do things like this. And my conjecture on it is, had that book, Broken Plea, not be written, we wouldn't be talking about this right now because it gave him fuel. It threw some kerosene on the fire that was burning. It goes, oh, let me let me latch on to this. And I love our listener put in their attention whore.