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**Scott Galloway** (0:52)
Being nicer to Scott.

**Kara Swisher** (0:53)
Yeah. That's not a strength.

**Scott Galloway** (0:55)
A little less judgment, a little bit nicer. A little more generous, a little more touch of your feelings.

**Kara Swisher** (1:00)
No.

**Scott Galloway** (1:01)
No? No.

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Hi everyone, this is Pivot from New York Magazine and the Vox Media Podcast Network. I'm Kara Swisher broadcasting from Inside Scott's Bedroom. No, I'm not, I'm actually in a studio.

**Scott Galloway** (1:39)
Not a lot going on there.

**Kara Swisher** (1:41)
No, your lovely cleaning person is here and they feel bad. Anyway, it's great.
Yes, person, I'm trying to be, I'm being woke, I'm being woke. Anyway, I am enjoying your apartment. Thank you for letting me use it. I have some personal stuff and also I'm going to see Madonna tonight. Do you know that?

**Scott Galloway** (2:00)
That's awesome. And I enjoy it when you're there. It makes me feel good that you're, that I have friends there. Madonna, that's gonna be really interesting.

**Kara Swisher** (2:09)
Yeah, she's being sued in Brooklyn, I guess, where her last show was. This is at Madison Square Garden tonight, but she was late, she was a couple hours late. And so some people felt that was rude of her to do and are suing her.
I don't care if she's late, I have to go to dinner and then I'll go see Madonna.

**Scott Galloway** (2:25)
Yeah, no, they used to, I forget who it was, all the heavy metal bands used to think it was kind of cool to show up four hours late. I'm like, you know, I need to get home, put on my catheter and go to sleep. Like, let's get this show going.

**Kara Swisher** (2:39)
Her constituency is not young, so it's kind of interesting.
Before we'd be like, whatever Madonna. So I'll be curious to see, she was always a performer more than a singer, like, let's be honest, but always like the songs were so fun. It'll be interesting to see if it's like the Rolling Stones, which I think people still find enjoyable or it's kind of sad.

**Scott Galloway** (3:00)
I don't know.
I bet it's going to be great. She has so many talented people around her. And I just think it's going to be, it's going to answer the question that everyone's asking and that is, where are all the white parents of those Taylor Swift fans? It's going to be a Madonna concert. It's going to be literally the land of 50-something white people.

**Kara Swisher** (3:21)
What was your first concert, Scott Galloway?

**Scott Galloway** (3:23)
I went to go see Squeeze with Maureen Burke at the Greek Theater.
And you know who opened? Who they opened for? They opened for the Go-Go's. And the Go-Go's, everyone in the crowd was so passionate and knew the songs so well from I think it was Beauty and the Beat that you couldn't hear the Go-Go's because the audience was singing so loud.

**Kara Swisher** (3:44)
I love the Go-Go's.

**Scott Galloway** (3:45)
Oh, they were great. My favorite was that they broke up for artistic differences.

**Kara Swisher** (3:51)
You got to ride that puppy. If you're that for the Go-Go's, you don't do that.

**Scott Galloway** (3:54)
Oh, yeah. You don't give that shit out.

**Kara Swisher** (3:56)
Also, like us, we ride that puppy.

**Scott Galloway** (3:59)
I would argue those differences were not worth breaking up over.