Deebo & Joe - Part 2: Are Shedeur Sanders Trade Rumors Real? + Joe Thomas on Myles Garrett Trade

**SPEAKER_1** (0:01)
Joe, listen here, man.

**Shay Shay** (0:03)
We're gonna check out with Cleveland. Hey, Joe, we got another Joe.

**James Harrison** (0:06)
Joe Thomas.

**Joe Haden** (0:07)
Yes, sir, yes, sir, yes, sir.

**Shay Shay** (0:08)
Hey, I guess he went on head and went-

**Joe Haden** (0:11)
Hall of Fame, Joe T.

**Shay Shay** (0:12)
Yes, Hall of Fame, first ballot.

**Joe Haden** (0:14)
First ballot.

**Shay Shay** (0:15)
First ballot, no question, man.

**Joe Haden** (0:17)
Crazy word.

**Shay Shay** (0:18)
I guess he went on and said that Myles Garrett, Trey, was right decision. He probably did that after he talked to me and saw what I was thinking. I think we got some sound. We got a sound? We got sound?

**Joe Thomas** (0:31)
Yeah, I mean, I think the news came out. It probably caught a lot of people by surprise. I knew there was always going to be a chance that the Browns traded Myles just knowing the situation they're in and the valuable asset that they had.
But for Cleveland fans, it's tough, right? Because for several of those seasons that Myles was here in Cleveland, he was like the one thing we got to cheer for, right? Last year out of the playoff hunt for a long time, but it gave us a reason to be proud as Browns fans to see him chasing that sack record and finally get it and just see the commitment that he had on the field to his team and to the city. It was incredible. So it was really hard to hear that he was traded, but it hurts everybody that Myles is not a Brown anymore. But I'm not willing to accept the fact that we're only allowed to think that our ceiling as Browns fans is the cheer for a player who's having a good season or breaking a record. Like, I don't want to lose sight of the fact that we're still here to try to win championships. And when you look at the Myles trade, to be able to get a great young player like Jared Vers, who's a tremendous pass rusher, he was a great asset to that team. He's on a friendly contract, saving money there, getting three draft choices for Myles, first, second and the third. Like, it puts us in a much better position for the next two, three, four years as we're in this building phase. So as you step away from the emotion of losing Myles, you realize like this puts the team in a much better situation moving forward. And it was the right decision, even though it hurts.

**Shay Shay** (1:55)
Joseph.

**Joe Haden** (1:56)
Yes.

**Shay Shay** (1:57)
Right decision, Joe, even though it hurts. I was telling you that, Joe.

**Joe Haden** (2:02)
But listen.

**Shay Shay** (2:02)
I was telling the Joes, man.

**Joe Haden** (2:05)
Joe Thomas sound like Joe Haden.

**Shay Shay** (2:07)
No question.

**Joe Haden** (2:09)
We sound the same. Hey.
Joe Thomas was there during the times. And he speaks from being a Browns fan, legitimately and a Browns Hall of Fame player. So who else to understand what he's talking about?

**Shay Shay** (2:24)
Because he played.

**Joe Haden** (2:25)
First ballot. First ballot. Joe Thomas is not one to play. The man was a goat in Cleveland. And so he understands what it is. He understands from the fan's perspective and from Myles Garrett's perspective. He understands where the team is right now from a fan side of you being able to root for your team. You have Myles Garrett on your team, Cleveland Browns. Defensive player of the year, 23 sacks. So you always want to have the best players on your team No, because you only want to have the best players on your team. That's a fan. When you go to the game, when you go to the game, it doesn't... No, no, that's not all that matters. It doesn't hurt though.
It doesn't hurt. It doesn't hurt. It doesn't hurt. We like this. We got Myles. Let's go score on offense and he still gets some sacks and we still could win. Not getting rid of Myles is going to help us win the game. You won five games.
I understand that. I understand that, but because that's why. Trash. Shut up, Deebo. That's why. Did you hear that?

**Shay Shay** (3:22)
I'm sorry, Joe.

**Joe Haden** (3:23)
Yeah, I did.
Your mic is right there. Your mic is right there. So when Joe Thomas says these things, he's speaking out of both sides. He's speaking from where he's a fan of the Browns and you see where you wanted to have Myles and what he's done for us. And then from without Myles, what we can still get, we still get verse, we still get a friendly contract, we can still get money that we could use. We still get draft picks for the future. Cause right now, Myles on the team with those 23 sacks wasn't getting us nothing but those five wins that you keep talking about. So we're going to eventually have to make a change where we can get more players. Jerry verse can fit in the line, defense can start working offensive pieces, draft picks can hopefully start balling in different positions that we need that the defensive end, those 23 sacks weren't getting us all the wins that we needed. So let's just try to get more. So in the sudden time, it sucks. You know what I'm saying? Cause you need Myles Garrett.