Colin Madine, Breitbart Editor Joins!

Nigel (0:00)

It's The Hammer and Nigel Show, hello! My name is Nigel, Jason Hammer is here. We'll go straight to the hotline and bring on Breitbart tech editor Colin Madine. Couldn't think of a better week, a better Friday to have Colin on than after the Microsoft outage. But even more than that, the big topic, the huge story is this company, Hammer, Nvidia.

One of the, Colin, is it the second biggest corporation in the world? Do I have that right?

Colin Madine (0:32)

It depends on the day, you know. Now it's shrinking, but it's still the biggest.

Nigel (0:37)

Right, right. But this guy that owns it or is the CEO has, was supposedly allegedly compromised by a Chinese honeypot. We'll get to all that here in just a second. Colin, thank you for joining us here on a Friday.

Tell us what Nvidia is and who is the leader of Nvidia, why he had to step down and give us the basics here.

Jason Hammer (1:05)

Sure.

Colin Madine (1:06)

The speed run is if you use AI, if you see anything about AI, if you've touched AI, you're actually using Nvidia's products. They make a particular types of computer systems and AI chips mostly called GPUs that run AI.

So, when you want to create the stupid video of your face in the anime or in the Disney show.

Jason Hammer (1:31)

You mean to tell me, let me jump in here, Colin. You mean to tell me when I made that video of Nigel French kissing Whoopi Goldberg, I was helping out Nvidia?

Colin Madine (1:40)

Yeah. I mean, I thought that was real.

Jason Hammer (1:45)

I did not know that.

Colin Madine (1:47)

All right. So, these are the hardware guys in the AI revolution, okay?

Very crucial to AI in any format, good and bad, right? Started by a guy named Jensen Wong in the 90s. Nvidia is a very interesting company because it's reinvented itself. It was high-end graphics hardware primarily for gamers and video production and stuff like that. Then it was the Bitcoin company. They used their systems for Bitcoin mining. Then the AI revolution. That's how it became the most valuable company on earth. The problem is Jensen Wong is not only the founder and the CEO, he's almost Nvidia itself. He does so many of the deals, the selling and the development himself. He has all the relationships. He doesn't have a huge management team. And so it's essentially like the Hammer and Nigel Show is Hammer and Nigel, right? Nvidia was kind of Jensen Wong, even though they have 40,000 employees. So that's the danger. And then you find out he had this affair with a Chinese woman, highly suspected of being an agent of China, because China wants two things. They want to know how to make these chips because they can't right now.

More importantly, they want to get the chips that America makes. There's export bans and restrictions on China, and they want to go around those.

So, immediately, what people were talking about was Jensen Wong, on purpose or unwittingly, helping China import these chips that America says they can't have. And then it all went to hell over the last two weeks.

Nigel (3:28)

Right. Yeah.

Jason Hammer (3:29)

So, Colin, we can dig down into this specific example here in more detail in just a moment, but it feels like we've got one of these stories every couple of years where it's a high profile politician like Eric Swalwell or in this case, a high profile tech leader like Jensen Hong here. How common is it for the Chinese to send over these smoke shows, smoking hot spies, and get literally in bed with American leaders?

Colin Madine (4:00)

Astoundingly simple. And what's interesting about what you just asked, Hammer, is they're not only after leaders. If they can get into, even with a junior person in the organization, they can get a wealth of intelligence and then figure out who else they need to target to work their way up. The analogy I've used with some people is typically counterfeiters don't make $100 bills because $100 bills are scrutinized. They make 20s because 20s are easy to pass, right? So every day, they're trying to get the mid-level, the low-level employees to start spilling secrets or help them get inside the organization. And then in this case, rarely they bag one of these ultimate targets, such that it's basically an open joke that the way tech bros talk about this is, if you're in San Francisco and a 7 is talking to you, they're a foreign agent.

It's just a question of what country they are. It's not even a perfect 10 If a 7 walks up to you and says, hey, you're dealing with a foreign agent.