CNN Identity Crisis, and How Boys Become Men, with Jesse Kelly, and New Nancy Guthrie Timeline Questions, with James Hamilton and Maureen O'Connell | Ep. 1283

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**Megyn Kelly** (1:01)
Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on SiriusXM channel 111 every weekday at noon East.
Hey, everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, and happy Friday. So great. Are you getting nicer weather where you are? It's getting nice here in the Northeast. Like, we had a 70-degree day yesterday, which is just incredible, such a gift. And then the Lord taketh away. Tomorrow, it's going back to like 30 But I enjoy, I enjoy just the breakthrough, right? It's like the people who joke online about how like, they're like, I don't have seasonal depression. And then, you know, skipping through the fields as soon as we hit 60, that, yeah, I feel it too. In any event, we've got breaking news this morning to bring to you on Iran, plus more attacks on conservatives. I mean, the right wing is ripping itself apart, really not helpful towards midterms or beyond. But first, new reports of tensions between Israel and the United States as this war continues with no end in sight. Axios News Today reporting that Vice President JD Vance is expected to be the top US negotiator in potential peace talks between the Americans and the Iranians. As we've been reporting, the vice president has long been a skeptic of foreign interventions in general, and we believe the Iran war in particular, the way Trump described it publicly was, he was not as enthusiastic as other members of the cabinet. He was enthusiastic, but not as enthusiastic. That's how Trump put it. But I think we all know that JD Vance has been more part of the isolationist wing, restrainer wing of the Republican Party, and I think he's handled this whole thing very well. It would be a massive error to contradict the president or countermand the president publicly. He is there to be supportive of the president. I felt that way about Kamala Harris when they made her the border czar. Her job at that time was not to come out and say, Geeze, Joe Biden has really screwed this up. But then when she ran for president and got asked by the view of all places, is there anything you would have done differently? That was the time to say, you know, the border wasn't great. That isn't exactly how I would have handled it. But I understood why my boss did it that way, whatever. You defend the boss, but then you carve your own lane. I think that's where it's going right now for JD. Because what we're hearing now is first of all, JD Vance was chosen to do this negotiation because he's one of the only ones, they say, would have credibility with the Iranians who will know what we know, which is he's more of the restrainer when it comes to this war and wasn't in favor of it. Secondly, they don't trust Witkoff and Kushner, who were stringing them along as we were about to bomb them to smithereens. So the word of our lead negotiators is no longer good. And then thirdly, there are reports today that Axios, by from Axios, that Israel is already objecting to Vance. Shocking, I'm shocked, shocked, because he's not pro-war enough. They're reporting that Vice President Vance and the Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu reportedly had a tense phone call on Monday. Axios is reporting this. And all I can think of is Vance in the White House in the Oval with Zelensky, and sort of how he put Zelensky in his place. It sounds like he just did that to Bibi Netanyahu. The Vice President allegedly pressed Netanyahu on his many rosy predictions to our president about how this war would play out. Specifically, Vance calling Netanyahu out on the fact that there seems to be no chance that a popular uprising will topple the regime as the Prime Minister of Israel promised our president. So Netanyahu looking at him saying, what happened to your rosy predictions about how the people were going to rise up in the street and see this regime change thing through to the end? It didn't happen. Axios quoting an unnamed US source, quote, before the war, BB really sold it to the president as being easy, as regime change being a lot likelier than it was. And the VP was clear-eyed about some of those statements. Well, good for him. It's delightful to think about someone holding him to account for the lies he told that got us into this war. Stop with that President Trump's decision. I'm aware, but someone talked him into it. And those people should be held to account. As this thing goes south, we need to know exactly who talked him into it and what representations were made to convince the president that this was a good idea. Who? Who specifically? The names we know are BB Netanyahu first and foremost, Lindsey Graham, equally to blame. We know from the Wall Street Journal Report that Mark Thiessen of Fox News and General Jack Keene were major advocates of the war. Okay, like those guys, but they appeared to have been very wrong that this was a good idea. And we could keep going. Mark Levin, chief among them, he says now, oh, it wasn't me. Every night, every night on Fox News out there. Urging the president to do this. And then he had a meeting with him in June, where we know he denies it now. We know he pushed him for this. Ben Shapiro was out on his show every day pushing this war. Like there were very prominent activists on the right who were practically frothing at the mouth for this thing. And now that it's not only going poorly, but the president's poll numbers are in a precipitous free fall, we'd love to see some accountability.