Can’t Spell Goop without GOP w. Melissa Murray & Kate Glavan artwork

Can’t Spell Goop without GOP w. Melissa Murray & Kate Glavan

Hysteria

August 27, 2026

Erin Ryan and Melissa Murray (Strict Scrutiny) dive into the multi-state legal battle over custody of a child born via surrogacy and the firestorm of politics swirling around it, and Natalie Harp’s creepy relationship with Donald Trump.
Speakers: Erin Ryan, Melissa Murray, Kate Glavan

Topics: Society & Culture, News, Politics

**Erin Ryan** (0:00)
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Hello and welcome to Hysteria. I'm Erin Ryan and today I am joined by Strict Scrutiny co-host Melissa Murray. Melissa, welcome.

**Melissa Murray** (2:16)
Thanks so much for having me, Erin.

**Erin Ryan** (2:18)
So I've got a question for you.
On Wednesday, California Attorney General Rob Bonta announced a $17 billion settlement with Meta over a lawsuit that was joined by many states, and alleged that Meta was tricking teens into getting addicted to their harmful websites. As part of the settlement, Meta has agreed to add some features for users under 18, including making the apps not work after certain times at night. Melissa, how much more productive would you be if your social media apps just would not work after dark?

**Melissa Murray** (2:56)
So, there's so many, I feel so much about this. One, I love it because I have teenagers and they're addicted to their phones, and I don't know what to do. I hide them, I go in at night, and I mess around with my daughter's TikTok algorithm, so that it only recommends Jane Austen books to her.
But, I also have this problem, so I hate doom scrolling at night, I try to put the phone down at night, but I feel like so much of my time spent on apps isn't really even scrolling, it's kind of trying to figure out how to do things. Like, how do I repost something in Instagram? Like, what do I do with the real? Like, would just like change my life phenomenally if the whole thing would just go away.

**Erin Ryan** (3:35)
Yeah, yeah, okay. Well, maybe they should make that feature available to everybody.

**Melissa Murray** (3:39)
Yes, not just for under 18, but under 68

**Erin Ryan** (3:43)
Yes, absolutely, absolutely. Today, we will be diving in to a multi-state legal battle over custody of a child born via surrogacy and the firestorm of politics swirling around it and Natalie Harp's creepy relationship with Donald Trump. Is it sexist to call it creepy? I say no. Then host of the Seamoss Girlies podcast, Kate Glavan stops by to talk about Gwyneth Paltrow and Goop's partnership with Big Tech. And of course, we end with Sandy Petty.
You're listening to Hysteria, the podcast for people who absolutely do not give custody of Dolly Parton's legacy to MAGA. No way.

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