Caleb Flynn Trial Day 2: Officer Velvman Sought WHAT From Venmo?!

SPEAKER_1 (0:00)

You're listening to continuing coverage in the trial of Caleb Flynn from the Hidden Killers Podcast and True Crime Today. Now, back to the courtroom.

SPEAKER_2 (0:11)

Mr. Joseph, you may inquire with this witness.

SPEAKER_3 (0:13)

Thank you, Your Honor.

SPEAKER_4 (0:14)

Sir, if you please state your name, spell your first and last name for the record.

SPEAKER_5 (0:17)

Yes.

Luke Velvman (0:18)

Officer Luke Velvman, L-U-K-E-V-E-L-V-M-A-N.

SPEAKER_7 (0:24)

And where are you currently employed?

SPEAKER_8 (0:25)

Tip City Police Department, sir.

SPEAKER_4 (0:27)

In what capacity?

SPEAKER_9 (0:29)

I'm currently assigned to the Patrol.

SPEAKER_4 (0:32)

And how long have you been with Tip City Police Department?

Luke Velvman (0:34)

Altogether seven years, just a little bit over.

SPEAKER_9 (0:36)

Have you been in the Patrol a long time?

SPEAKER_8 (0:38)

No, sir.

Luke Velvman (0:39)

I was assigned to the investigation section as a general assignment detective from January, I'm sorry, from November of 2024 through January of 2026

SPEAKER_10 (0:48)

And is there a reason that you are a Patrolman now?

SPEAKER_9 (0:52)

Yes, sir.

Luke Velvman (0:53)

That was a brand new assignment that they started, I was the first person to get to do it.

SPEAKER_8 (0:57)

It was a year rotation in the detective section.

SPEAKER_4 (0:59)

So just rotation?

SPEAKER_9 (1:00)

Yep.

Luke Velvman (1:01)

As soon as you do your year, you're kind of out, the next guy goes in just to get some of those younger guys a chance to get in there, get some experience.

SPEAKER_10 (1:07)

And re-involved at all in the investigation at 932 Penningham Court?

SPEAKER_9 (1:12)

Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_10 (1:13)

And what was your involvement?

Luke Velvman (1:15)

I would say the day of the incident, I was on control and came and helped with scene security for that day. From that day forward, I was assigned to preparing search warrants, affidavits and assisting with subpoena preparation.

SPEAKER_10 (1:29)

Approximately how many search warrants and affidavits did you prepare?

Luke Velvman (1:34)

Over 30 search warrants and over, I think, I'll say eight subpoenas I assisted with.

SPEAKER_10 (1:41)

And was one of those a search warrant for a Venmo account for Alleigha Botner?

SPEAKER_9 (1:46)

Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_7 (1:48)

And did you draft that search warrant?

SPEAKER_3 (1:49)

I did.

SPEAKER_4 (1:50)

And what did you do with it after you drafted it?

SPEAKER_9 (1:52)

It was submitted through a portal to Venmo, actually PayPal, to Venmo Best Business Advertising.

SPEAKER_10 (2:00)

I'm sorry, can you repeat that?

SPEAKER_3 (2:01)

Yeah, it was submitted through a portal.

SPEAKER_9 (2:03)

It's called the Safety Hub for them specifically.

SPEAKER_3 (2:05)

So once it was signed by a judge, it was submitted to PayPal, which is who Venmo gets searched for.

SPEAKER_7 (2:12)

Okay, so PayPal and Venmo?

SPEAKER_9 (2:14)

Yeah, I guess you could say that.

SPEAKER_7 (2:17)

And once, did you submit the search for it to a judge?

Luke Velvman (2:23)

Yes.

SPEAKER_7 (2:23)

Okay, and it was approved?

Luke Velvman (2:24)

Yes, it was approved and signed, yes, sir.

SPEAKER_10 (2:26)

And then you submitted it to the hub and then you received a response from PayPal?

SPEAKER_9 (2:29)

I did.

SPEAKER_4 (2:30)

And what was that response?

Luke Velvman (2:33)

That response came through a password-secured file that came with a certified letter as well as the actual data return.

SPEAKER_7 (2:44)

And you sent a certified letter?

SPEAKER_9 (2:48)

Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_7 (2:49)

And the data, and did you review that data?

Luke Velvman (2:53)

I briefly reviewed it to make sure that it's what I asked for, but I did not analyze that data.

SPEAKER_4 (2:57)

Did you find that it was what you asked for?

SPEAKER_9 (2:58)

Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_7 (3:00)

You're on my approach.

SPEAKER_4 (3:02)

You may. This exhibit 196

SPEAKER_10 (4:04)

Well, I can tell the jury what that is.

Luke Velvman (4:06)

Yes, this is a copy, a redacted copy of a search warrant and happy data for Venmo, the account of Alleigha Botner.

SPEAKER_10 (4:14)

And is that search warrant a fairer accurate representation of the one that was approved by the judge and sent to PayPal?

SPEAKER_11 (4:19)

Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_7 (4:20)

And did you receive that data in response?

SPEAKER_3 (4:24)

Yes, certification of the case.

SPEAKER_11 (4:26)

Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_10 (5:01)

Is that the Affidavit for Business Record Certification you received along with the data from Venmo as a result of your search warrant? Yes, sir.

Luke Velvman (5:07)

That I received from PayPal.

SPEAKER_4 (5:08)

From PayPal, yes, sir.

SPEAKER_9 (5:10)

Doing business at Venmo's.

SPEAKER_10 (5:11)

Their technology.

SPEAKER_4 (5:12)

Can you please read that for the jury?

Luke Velvman (5:14)

Yes, sir. This is Affidavit for Business Record Certification. I, Rebecca Peabody, certify and declare as follows for SCM case number-GI-0112-500461-PP-SH-551357-1.