Caleb Flynn Trial Day 1: K9 Hayes Tracked WHAT at Garage?

Tony Brueski (0:00)

You're listening to continuing coverage in the trial of Caleb Flynn from the Hidden Killers podcast and True Crime Today. Now, back to the courtroom.

SPEAKER_2 (0:12)

Subscribe, John. You are released. Thank you, John. Mr. Joseph, are you pulling your next fitness?

Officer, would you like to come up to the window stand? If you turn and raise your right hand, Ms. Ostendorff will start even.

SPEAKER_3 (1:00)

Good afternoon, sir. Please state your name, spell your first and last name for the record.

David Laycox (1:06)

Deputy Dave Laycox, D-A-B-I-D, L-A-Y-C-O-S.

SPEAKER_3 (1:11)

Where are you currently employed?

David Laycox (1:12)

With the Preble County Sheriff's Office.

SPEAKER_3 (1:14)

What's your current sign of court position?

David Laycox (1:17)

I'm the Deputy K9 Hayes with the Preble County Sheriff's Office.

SPEAKER_3 (1:20)

How long have you been in the Preble County Sheriff's Office?

David Laycox (1:24)

A little bit.

SPEAKER_3 (1:25)

How long have you been a K9 officer?

David Laycox (1:27)

Three years.

SPEAKER_3 (1:28)

What training did you complete to become a law enforcement officer in Ohio?

David Laycox (1:32)

I had to go to the K9 Academy, which is roughly about 160 hours. A little bit of a long time.

SPEAKER_3 (1:40)

And any academy prior to that, prior to the K9 Academy, just the Iowa Police Officer?

David Laycox (1:44)

Correct, yeah, the Iowa Police Officer.

SPEAKER_3 (1:47)

And other than the K9 training, any other specialized training beyond basic academy training?

David Laycox (1:57)

I've worked on evidence. I've done all the normal police stuff, probably everything else I've done.

SPEAKER_3 (2:06)

Normal police stuff?

David Laycox (2:07)

Yeah, I think you're an example. Interview interrogation classes, we've went through evidence training, just basic police stuff at this point.

SPEAKER_3 (2:22)

Any special awards or medals or anything that you've achieved in your career as a police officer?

David Laycox (2:28)

I had multiple life-saving awards.

I received a distinguished service medal for assisting the fire department with saving a nine-year-old Apple issues 90, elderly female, house buyer. And then I received the BSSA Medal of Honor for entering upon a vehicle with two victims trapped inside a vehicle.

SPEAKER_3 (2:52)

And you mentioned that you're a K9 handler, and you mentioned the training. Can you repeat what training exactly you had to do to become certified as a K9 handler?

David Laycox (3:00)

So to be certified as a K9 handler, I had to go through the K9 Academy, which is about 160 hours of training service, roughly a little over a month long. I then have to continue every month for 16 hours, continue that education, train and track with my dog, and then get to be certified through a pilot every single year.

SPEAKER_3 (3:21)

And you said that you've been doing this for about three years?

David Laycox (3:24)

Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_3 (3:24)

And is this training individual or are you with the K9?

David Laycox (3:28)

I'm with the K9.

SPEAKER_3 (3:29)

And is that K9 the same K9 that is currently with you? Yes, sir. Okay. And so you're currently certified as a K9 handler?

What's the name of your K9?

David Laycox (3:47)

K9 Hayes.

SPEAKER_3 (3:48)

K9 Hayes. And what kind of dog is that?

David Laycox (3:53)

K9Hayes is a blackout.

SPEAKER_3 (3:55)

How long have you worked with K9Hayes? Three years?

David Laycox (3:57)

Yeah, three years.

SPEAKER_3 (3:58)

And how old is K9Hayes?

David Laycox (4:00)

He just turned four.

SPEAKER_3 (4:02)

And so you receive certification and training, does the K9 Retreat receive certification training as well?

David Laycox (4:08)

We get certification training together.

SPEAKER_3 (4:10)

Together, but in joint certification?

David Laycox (4:12)

Yeah, joint certification.

SPEAKER_3 (4:18)

Continuing education.

David Laycox (4:19)

Yes, that's right. We have to train together. It takes 16 hours every month and continue to train to get the fired hours and also be re-certified every single year.

SPEAKER_3 (4:36)

And what is tracking as it relates to K9 work?

David Laycox (4:40)

Well, in my case, they're with my dog, he's what? So we do tracking and trailing. Tracking is where I know what the suspect is supposedly started and my dog takes the track and we follow that track.

The other one is a trail where I don't know where the suspect's at. He does not do scent discrimination, so therefore I can get him an article, such as a piece of clothing, LOK, something of the person that's missing and he'd be able to scent discriminate, scent the air, get out of the trap in that way.

SPEAKER_3 (5:15)

So would it be fair to say that generally speaking a track is when there's an unknown suspect and a trail is when there's a known suspect?