BREAKING: Lindsay Clancy Jury Still Deadlocked - Is There ONE Holdout Left?

**Megyn Kelly** (0:00)
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Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to a special edition of The MK Show. It's 320 Eastern Time, and there is breaking news in the Lindsay Clancy trial. We have had a note from the jurors to the judge, and we anticipated it possibly being an update that the jury was hung, hopelessly deadlocked and not able to come to a verdict. Instead, what we have gotten via Court TV, which is serving as a pool for this case, is that there is anger and frustration being expressed by the defense attorney, Kevin Reddington, that he slammed down some paperwork that the judge then gave Reddington, I think, additional paperwork and Reddington pushed it back at him, that the prosecutors continue to look upset, but they're not reacting like Kevin Reddington is with physical anger, that the judge was raising his voice at Kevin Reddington, that Kevin Reddington, defense attorney again, was head snapping forward, raising his voice to almost audible, clearly a disagreement between the defense lawyer and the judge and the prosecutors not particularly happy, though more stone-faced.
But Reddington visibly quote, upset via Court TV.
After the disagreement burst out in that fashion, they wheeled Lindsay Clancy up to the bench, the judge's bench. And there was an exchange with her. We don't know what was said, typically you don't bring the defense, the defendant to the judge, to the court and the bench. That's extraordinary. We don't know why they did that. And then they started bringing the jurors back in the room. We expected to hear a note that would say something, read something along the lines of, we're hopelessly deadlocked and we can't reach a verdict. But instead, the judge started calling up the jurors one by one and conducting individual Q&A of each juror. And that's underway right now. And we have no idea what this is all in service of. I want to bring in our legal panel, which is here to help us navigate it all. We've got Phil Holloway, we've got Dave Aronberg, and we also are pleased and thrilled to be joined by our pal Ashleigh Banfield of the great podcast Drop Dead Serious. And of course, Phil and Dave co-host MK True Crimes Show on our MK True Crime channel. Guys, thank you so much for being with us so quickly. This is pretty extraordinary, Aronberg. What do you think is happening?

**Dave Aronberg** (2:48)
You know, the only thing I thought would be happening would be the declaration of a mistrial. They clearly haven't decided. I think that Reddington is probably very upset because he wants this to be a mistrial and not have any more pressure on the jury to stay out there. He knows that if you keep pressuring the jury, it's more likely then they would find something to compromise on, perhaps the guilty on involuntary manslaughter. So what I think is happening is that Reddington had wanted and anticipated a hung jury, a mistrial right now and the judge seems to be prolonging it. Let's give him more time, more time. That's my guess.

**Megyn Kelly** (3:24)
So that's maybe why he's doing the one by one. These are live pictures from inside the court right now. There's no audio. If there is, we'll take you there. But right now, the judge, we believe, is still conducting his questioning of the jurors.
Phil, what do you think is happening? Because I heard some speculation this could this could come down to potential bullying even of the holdout or holdouts that might be in that room.

**Phil Holloway** (3:48)
Well, Megyn, the parties are now apparently seated back at their tables, and the defendant is no longer at the bench. The reason she was there is because she has a right to understand and participate and be aware of everything that's going on. So if there's something substantive happening where important decisions are being made at sidebar, that's why she was there. I suspect, and the jury's coming in now, I suspect this is about to be a hung jury and a mistrial.

**Megyn Kelly** (4:14)
Ashleigh, what do you make of it?

**Ashleigh Banfield** (4:16)
So I have a whole different feeling on this because I've been through a couple of these situations where jurors are angry and frustrated and noisy. We're not hearing that, but I tend to think that if they're bringing each juror in separately, there's a good chance that they're questioning their behavior and if someone is being difficult. I'm thinking about Kevin Reddington being angry and throwing the papers back at the judge and then throwing them on the floor and his head was in his hands at one point and thinking, I wonder if they're trying to remove a juror, a difficult juror, maybe the one holdout juror. And then Kevin Reddington doesn't get his mistrial and Kevin Reddington probably wants the mistrial because he probably thinks he's giving a deal after it.