**Tucker Carlson** (0:04)
Dennis Kucinich, thank you for doing this. So a lot of us who've been paying half attention keep hearing that there's an effort in the Congress to, in some basic sense, merge the US military with the IDF, with the Israeli military.
Same with our intelligence services. It's hard to believe that could be true. Is it true? What do you know about it?
**Dennis Kucinich** (0:24)
Well, the National Defense Authorization Act of 2027, Section 219 has a provision that provides for the integration of the IDF and the US military at the top most sensitive levels of our military operations. And that is a fact. Now, when you have an integration and you say you're going to eliminate duplication, that's a merger. And so they're merging.
And the-
**Tucker Carlson** (1:04)
The US military and Israeli military.
**Dennis Kucinich** (1:07)
Yeah, and in specific areas, like artificial intelligence and autonomous functioning of vehicles, you know, that will increase the kill efficiency, right? Yes. In quantum sensing, that deals with very sophisticated data and will blur the distinction between offense and defense, okay?
Cyber electronic war is another area they want to merge in, which you can't really, you know, if you take AI and you match it with these sophisticated technologies, you expand the ability to hurt people, really, to kill people. You know, they want to merge missile defense, space defense, directed energy, it's a whole range of things, and biological technology, including biological, potential biological warfare. What could go wrong, right? See, and I look at it this way, Tucker.
The first issue is American sovereignty. I don't care, Israel or whoever, we need to maintain our sovereignty. We cannot cause another country to be involved in decision makings that relate to the national security of the United States of America. Yes. We have to be singular and solitary in that regard. Unfortunately, this provision in this bill, all the safeguards go out the window. And essentially, it's a merger and, you know, one step from merger is an acquisition. I am, yeah, really, you know, think about that. And think about this too, in this context. We had kind of a quasi, kind of a practice run of this merger in Iran.
Look what happened. You know, the Israel, the United States had to be head of Israel, goes in and attacks Iran.
**Tucker Carlson** (3:23)
Yeah.
**Dennis Kucinich** (3:24)
Working with Israel on this, it ended up being a disaster on so many different levels.
So that's what we've already found out from that kind of a cooperation, let's say. And now imagine if you get two parties together and they go forward from there, what, you know, again, what could go wrong? The United States must remain sovereign. We must not in any way seed this idea of Israel being integrated, the militaries of the US and Israel being integrated. The other thing is, it's unconstitutional. I mean, really, they bypass the treaty mechanism. You know, we joined NATO as a treaty.
**Tucker Carlson** (4:06)
Yes.
**Dennis Kucinich** (4:07)
There's no treaty or it's just in legislation. This should be going to the Senate at least for approval. Not so, just to put in legislation, make it happen. And also, people, you know, the president is the commander in chief of US Armed Forces, each of whom take an oath to defend the Constitution.
First of all, Israel doesn't have a Constitution. Secondly, they're not taking any oath to the United States of America to protect our interests. So what is this about? Why are we becoming more vulnerable to a nation whose military values are so distinct from ours?
**Tucker Carlson** (4:47)
Well, I mean, there's so many levels here. I mean, just to address that, of all the militaries you could merge with, why pick the only one on the planet that's currently committing genocide? I mean, it does seem grotesque of all the militaries on the planet. Right. So it does seem like this changes the dynamic between the United States and Israel completely were to become law, because as it presently stands, the United States is Israel's benefactor. Israel can't fight seven wars or whatever, how many fronts they have at any given time without the United States paying for most of it, which we do.
So we can withdraw the support and thereby control, at least theoretically control, the Israel's behavior we never have, but we could. This would, if it becomes law, integrate the militaries to such an extent that the United States would actually be at the mercy of Israel. So Israel withdraws technology in the United States, military is hamstrung. So it would actually put Israel in the driver seat.
**Dennis Kucinich** (5:50)
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