🎙️ BONUS | Where Do Middle Names Come From?

**Nick** (0:07)
Morning.

**David Lutteral** (0:08)
Sit back, relax, and enjoy some naughty bonus bits with us, Nick, Luttsy & Susie O'Neill.

**Susie O'Neill** (0:14)
Let me see what we can talk about.

**David Lutteral** (0:17)
Still baffles me you don't have a middle name, Suze.

**Susie O'Neill** (0:19)
Really?

**David Lutteral** (0:20)
To me, you're a Susan Jane Bartholomew O'Neill.

**Susie O'Neill** (0:23)
But there's no point to middle names.

**David Lutteral** (0:24)
There's none, absolutely none. Absolutely none.

**Nick** (0:28)
Why do they originate? What was the meaning of this?

**Susie O'Neill** (0:30)
I don't know. It was funny. I was on my phone the other day.

**David Lutteral** (0:33)
Christian thing? Must have been.

**Susie O'Neill** (0:34)
I'm a sideline to this while you're thinking about that. We can go back to that. I was putting things in my name, my address book the other day like Luttsy, Nova or you put what they do or you know.

**David Lutteral** (0:46)
How you know them.

**Susie O'Neill** (0:46)
How you know them.

**David Lutteral** (0:48)
Yeah. Luttsy, friend from radio.

**Susie O'Neill** (0:50)
Or Chrissy swimming or Bill Plummer.

**David Lutteral** (0:53)
Or then you have like Joel, never pick up or whatever. Yeah.

**Susie O'Neill** (0:56)
And Bill said to me in my son, he goes, you know, that's how last names originated. I go, oh yeah, probably. He goes, yeah, you know, like Jack Smith. He's a Smith, like because he's a blacksmith. Blacksmith. So you might say Smith.

**David Lutteral** (1:11)
Smith family.

**Susie O'Neill** (1:12)
Or Baker. They're the Baker family.

**David Lutteral** (1:15)
They're the Bakers. It was pretty straightforward as to what they did.

**Susie O'Neill** (1:18)
That's what he said.

**David Lutteral** (1:19)
It was now like mine and the Allen-Ducat family. Jeez, what are they doing?

**Nick** (1:21)
Well, you couldn't do it now because people have five different careers.

**David Lutteral** (1:24)
Yeah. In their lifetime. Yeah, true. At least five. So you'd be Susie's swimmer.

**Susie O'Neill** (1:28)
Yeah, Susie's swimmer.

**David Lutteral** (1:29)
You'd be the swimmers.

**Susie O'Neill** (1:29)
Yeah, we'd be the swimmers.

**David Lutteral** (1:31)
David Radio.

**Susie O'Neill** (1:32)
David Radio.

**Nick** (1:32)
David Radio.

**David Lutteral** (1:33)
David Broadcast. David Broadcaster. David Broadcaster, yeah.

**Susie O'Neill** (1:36)
Tony Talker, your mum.

**David Lutteral** (1:38)
Oh, yeah.

**Nick** (1:39)
Tony Talker.

**David Lutteral** (1:39)
That's fun.

**Susie O'Neill** (1:40)
You'd be the Talkers.

**David Lutteral** (1:41)
It's actually kind of fun. And then at least you'd always know what they did.

**Susie O'Neill** (1:43)
Yeah.

**David Lutteral** (1:43)
So you never forget their job. Except you have those people who work in the city, like I got mates who I have no idea what they do. Even they tell you their job title, I still don't get it.

**Nick** (1:52)
I go out of my way not to know.

**David Lutteral** (1:53)
Yeah.

**Nick** (1:54)
I got so many friends that work in finance.

**David Lutteral** (1:56)
What does that even mean? I don't know. And it's such a broad spectrum of finance. Can be so many things.

**Susie O'Neill** (2:02)
Yeah.

**David Lutteral** (2:03)
Apparently middle names came about to track family heritage. And also a sign of wealth to show status.

**Susie O'Neill** (2:09)
Wealthy Romans use three names.

**David Lutteral** (2:11)
Your family does that. It's a hyphenated name.
So my full name, Nicholas Mark Allen-Ducat. It's ridiculous.

**Susie O'Neill** (2:18)
What is... don't say the name if you don't want to, but does she have the hyphenated name?

**David Lutteral** (2:22)
Yeah. So Florence is her middle name, Allen-Ducat as well.

**Susie O'Neill** (2:25)
Oh, and Morgan's name?

**David Lutteral** (2:28)
Morgan still kept her name. She didn't get around to doing all the paperwork, but on social media and stuff, she's Allen-Ducat. But then she still kept her family maiden name actually legally. Oh, okay.

**Susie O'Neill** (2:38)
Yeah, I know people do that.

**David Lutteral** (2:39)
So we go to weddings and our friends will put Nick and Morgan Allen-Ducat, but if you actually do something for her and you have to write her real details, she's kept her normal name or her family name. I think she's going to change it, but now it's a bit of a shit show.

**Susie O'Neill** (2:49)
It's so hard to change all your names.

**David Lutteral** (2:51)
Did you change yours?

**Susie O'Neill** (2:52)
No.

**David Lutteral** (2:52)
Yeah. I mean, fair enough. Yours is a pretty iconic name.

**Susie O'Neill** (2:55)
I don't know if I would have anyway. But I know some people, yeah, they have their work name is their original name, and then they've got their married name is their fun name.

**Nick** (3:04)