🎙️ BONUS | Rejecting Short Sperm Donors

**Kip Wightman** (0:01)
The Nick, Luttsy & Susie O'Neill Podcast.

**David Lutteral** (0:05)
Welcome.
Bonus podcast. Here we are. Now, I saw something that piqued my interest. What was it? During the show, let me find it.

**Kip Wightman** (0:15)
That's Newman with a N-U-M-A-N. N-E-U-M-A-N.

**David Lutteral** (0:20)
Okay. This is completely switching gears from the Newman. Yeah.

**Kip Wightman** (0:24)
That's Marina Newman, by the way, because this is a different podcast than the other. So this was the weather person from Sky News that we're trying to get on the show. Sorry.

**David Lutteral** (0:35)
Changing gears altogether. I don't know if they want to be associated with this. Did you know?
Yes.

**Kip Wightman** (0:40)
That's right.

**David Lutteral** (0:42)
Most major sperm banks will not accept donors under 5'9 in height.

**Kip Wightman** (0:47)
I love this.

**David Lutteral** (0:49)
What? How wild is this?

**Kip Wightman** (0:50)
What?

**David Lutteral** (0:51)
This is in the United States, to be fair. I don't know about Australia.
They have a height requirement of 5'9 and above. I thought you said you were changing the stigma in short people.

**Kip Wightman** (1:02)
Yeah, but it's not like they're not going, we just don't want it. The people that are trying to get breed or whatever, don't want. It's like saying-

**David Lutteral** (1:13)
It's recipient demand.

**Kip Wightman** (1:14)
What do you want? Do you want a 6'2 guy with blonde hair and beautiful skin or do you want a 5'7 pygmy with freckles and a cleft palate?

**David Lutteral** (1:25)
Not all sub-sixes are pygmy, so. I don't feel comfortable. You can't choose any of this in Australia, can you?

**Kip Wightman** (1:31)
Because it's got a word for it.

**David Lutteral** (1:32)
I think Hitler was into it. Yeah. What is it called?

**Kip Wightman** (1:35)
Yeah, he had the whole-

**David Lutteral** (1:36)
Actually, I should have mentioned that name.

**Kip Wightman** (1:37)
Hitler Youth. So you can't, in Australia, you can't say who you want, you don't want who the donor to be.

**David Lutteral** (1:44)
I don't know about that. You can't choose anything. You can't even choose the sex. But in America, it's like you get a shopping list of like, oh, okay, this guy is-

**Kip Wightman** (1:51)
I prefer that.

**David Lutteral** (1:52)
This, you know. The shopping list?

**Kip Wightman** (1:53)
Yes.

**David Lutteral** (1:54)
Because if you're going to get the sperm, you want to know where it's coming from. Most people would probably. So basically, you can still donate if you're under 5'9, but no one wants that sperm, so it goes to waste. And our businesses who do this are going, nah, how tall are you? Sorry, sir.
No one's going to want your sperm.

**Kip Wightman** (2:09)
I don't have a problem with it.

**David Lutteral** (2:10)
I mean, what if you're short and you just want to get some money by busting a nut?

**Kip Wightman** (2:15)
But your partner, that's a shopping list. You're picking who your partner is.

**David Lutteral** (2:19)
Yeah, good point.

**Kip Wightman** (2:20)
So in fairness, Morgan chose you.

**David Lutteral** (2:23)
Yeah, love wins always.

**Kip Wightman** (2:24)
At your height. You could then argue that Morgan, if she wants to go through that process for whatever reason, would not mind a short person because I short her person.

**David Lutteral** (2:34)
And then when she rolls in and goes, do you have anyone sub-fab? And I go, no, we don't.

**Kip Wightman** (2:38)
That's what I'm saying.

**David Lutteral** (2:39)
There's no one on the list. Apparently, it's got ongoing criticism from bio-thesicists, who argue it medicalizes height as a defect and reinforces social bias.

**Kip Wightman** (2:52)
It does.

**David Lutteral** (2:53)
And there is. Well, I know there is, you know?

**Kip Wightman** (2:57)
Is it?

**David Lutteral** (2:58)
Yeah.

**Kip Wightman** (2:58)
I mean, I know we sort of take the piss out of it. I guess we're adding to it, aren't we, by taking the piss out of it.

**David Lutteral** (3:05)
I really don't take offense to it, the heights up. It's because obviously I've been short all my life, but it's like, I've never, I've never.

**Kip Wightman** (3:12)
Obviously.

**David Lutteral** (3:13)
I've grown used to it.

**Kip Wightman** (3:13)
You were six foot three when you were 11

**David Lutteral** (3:15)
But I've never known different, you know what I mean?

**Kip Wightman** (3:17)
My brother's short and he doesn't seem to concern him.

**David Lutteral** (3:19)
He married a really tall lady too. We've always had friends, never struggled, you know. Drinking, you know, like he's quite extroverted and energetic. We make up for it.

**Kip Wightman** (3:28)