Black Male Clancy Juror Lone Holdout is Allegedly REPUBLICAN, and Charlie Kirk Family May SUE Over UVU Security, with Geragos, Murphy, Aronberg, and Frei | Ep. 1399

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Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. We have an incredible Kelly's Court today. Man, do we have a full docket. This morning, just before we came to air, Charlie Kirk's family took the first step in filing a lawsuit against Utah Valley University over the security failures that led to his murder on September 10th of last year. Oh my God.

I mean, I've wondered whether they would do this for a long time now. I mean, there are serious questions about why so little was done to keep him safe. Truly. And now those questions are being asked by his family directly as they point the finger at the university. So we'll get into it. This raises a bunch of issues. It is a public university. Sometimes those are provided with immunity. Sometimes it's waived. We'll talk about that. And you can bet that the university is going to point the finger right back at the turning point security team.

That would be a question of apportionment. But we're going to get into all of it. It was a...

Ugh, just it raises so many awful memories. And the lawsuit reveals a lot that we didn't know about what Turning Point had done with respect to the university to tell them, he's a target. Please be sure he's safe. What about the rooftops, et cetera? So we'll do those details in just a bit. Okay, but we are beginning today with the holdout juror in the Lindsay Clancy case, who is now speaking out, at least indirectly. There is a guy named Ray Marcel, who hosts a YouTube channel called Fugitive TV. And Ray says he spoke with a holdout juror for about an hour yesterday about both the Clancy case and about this jurors past, as has now been repeated in the Boston Globe and elsewhere. Now, he wanted to verify that he spoke to this juror, and he showed a picture of the juror's summons in the case. Now, Ray Marcel has named the juror. He's named him, and he's said his name repeatedly. And he's also put out a picture, two pictures of the juror, because he says the juror, well, he doesn't want people making donations, to, I guess, fakers, who are saying they are the juror. Look, I don't know, I believe this guy, Ray Marcel, has spoken to the actual juror, because he's got a picture of his actual juror summons, and he's got pictures of the juror. I'm just gonna, for now, hedge my bets, and I'll just refer to him as Michael. Okay, that's his first name. But I'm gonna skip the last name, because it's not important for me to say it here. I do believe Ray Marcell has been in touch with him, but until the juror comes out himself and confirms that it's him, I'm gonna stick with just a first name.

He wrote, Ray Marcell, this is Lindsay Clancy Juror Michael. He sent me these photos. Do not send anyone any money that is not him, because there are definitely some fakers on the internet right now purporting to be the holdout juror. Now, Marcell says that Michael told him there's far more to the story about these domestic abuse allegations against him from his now ex-wife. This goes back six years. We shouldn't be talking about this at all. We shouldn't be. This is harassment of a juror who did nothing other than answer the call to civic duty. This is so wrong. I'm sorry that this has been crammed down our throats by these activist other jurors who took aim at this guy, piled on like a bunch of bullies. And then NBC Boston joined in by unearthing these allegations in his past, The Boston Globe. Now, every publication is out with it and this guy's having to deal with it. And we understand, we believe that the prosecution and defense teams are likely dealing with it too because they've just brought on a new lawyer. There's definitely going to be another hearing. And Kevin Reddington, the defense lawyer, is uncharacteristically silent about the matter of this juror and his so-called past. So you can bet he's getting ready to do something about it because there's no way he'd be saying nothing if he, you know, weren't actively going to use it. That's my own take. Okay, so this Michael has allegedly told Ray, this guy Ray Marcel, that that incident with his ex-wife, keep in mind what MBC Boston reported was that back in 2021 that Michael allegedly assaulted his ex-wife or his wife at the time and that his 13-year-old nephew called the cops on Michael, that Michael's mother was yelling, you're evil, as he allegedly did this to her, and that the wife was disgusted and filed for divorce. And then they got a divorce. Well, Michael seems to be saying there's more to that story and says he was actually the one who filed for divorce, not his wife, after learning that she was an illegal immigrant. Now, we understand that Michael is a legal immigrant from Haiti.