Best of the Program | Guest: Jon Ronson | 9/2/26

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**Glenn Beck** (0:26)
On today's podcast, there was something that is said at the closing arguments for the Charlie Kirk pre-murder trial.
And it really stuck out. It was from the defense. And it was the word true.
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**Glenn Beck** (2:50)
Let me take you now to Provo.
One of the defense attorneys, the judge said the case can go to trial on every count, this is for Charlie Kirk, his killer. And what the defense attorney said out loud with his wife sitting there is, and I want you to think, what is the one word that sticks out to you? This is what he said, what everybody listening, cameras on. It is true that Mr. Kirk spoke hatefully of certain groups of people. Then he itemized it, you know, people whose gender identity doesn't conform, people who aren't strictly heterosexual, people who have sex outside of marriage.
What word sticks out there? And I have to tell you, Richard Novak, who is the attorney, he's just making a motive argument, okay? The state says Robinson killed Charlie because of his relationship with his roommate. Novak's point is that the prosecution has exactly one text message and nothing else, nothing on the phone, nothing on the computer, nothing in the apartment, and you can't build a motive out of a single sentence. That's a legitimate argument, and it's his job to make it. And the judge, to be fair, agreed with the standard at this stage is only reasonable, okay? What's the word, however, that sticks out? Because he didn't build it that way. He could have said the state only has one text, nothing else. He said that too.
But what else did he say? What word carried all the weight? Here it is. It is true that Mr. Kirk spoke hatefully of certain groups of people. It is true.
True? Not the state alleges, not Mr. Robinson may have believed, but true, stated as a finding on the record, in front of the widow, about a man who can't stand up and answer for himself in a proceeding where nobody is on the stand to test it. It is true. And you know what? This is such a scumbag move. It's the oldest move there is against a dead man. You don't say he deserved it. You say, well, killing him is explainable. And you put the reason in the victim's mouth and let the jury pool do the arithmetic on its own time, because this is true. No, it is not. No, it is not.