Andy Burnham: My Relationship With Starmer, Brexit Lies and Emotion in Politics
The Rest Is Politics: Leading
October 11, 2026
How will he change Britain’s relationship with the EU? Why has he agreed to publish details of meetings following the Manchester City scandal? With the Trump administration planning to livestream a firing squad execution, should the UK take a stand?
Speakers Alastair Campbell, Rory Stewart, Andy Burnham
TopicsPoliticsNewsGovernment
Alastair Campbell (0:00)
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Rory Stewart (0:21)
Welcome to The Rest Is Politics with me, Rory Stewart.
Alastair Campbell (0:24)
And me, Alastair Campbell. And we are delighted to be with Andy Burnham, Prime Minister of the United Kingdom. We are going to be asking him about Europe. What does he mean when he says we're going to get closer to Europe? We're going to be talking about the Brexit referendum. Did the Russians interfere? We're going to be talking about Ukraine and defence. How are they going to get to the level of defence spending that we need? And what is going to happen on pensions? What is going to happen on the triple lock? And how are they going to fund social care? And when is the National Care Service going to start?
We're going to talk about Manchester City. Big scandal brewing. We're going to be talking about him, his faith, his family, his emotion. And we're going to be asking, how did he become Prime Minister? Why did the Starmer Project fail in the way that it did? All this and more coming up with me and Rory and Andy Burnham.
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