"Andy Burnham Is Away With The Fairies" – Andrew Neil

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Andrew Neil (1:36)

It's the people who blame. It's British attitudes to blame because the British people think they can have Scandinavian levels of cradle to the grave welfare on kind of mid-Atlantic taxis. And here's the thing you can't, although if people vote in a way that results in a right-of-centre government that might not deliver on all these things, if the country does vote for the Andy Burnham perspectives, that's it.

We are a socialist tax and spend future. There's no going back from that. He believes that a bigger state means more growth. My own view is he's away with the pharise, but that's his belief.

Francis Foster (2:23)

Why don't you think it's gonna work?

Andrew Neil (2:25)

Because I don't see anywhere in the world where it ever has.

So a crisis in the bond market could force this government into doing things it doesn't want to do. I think we are heading for some really tough times.

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Francis Foster (2:56)

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Andrew Neil (3:06)

Lovely to be here in the heart of Westminster.

Francis Foster (3:08)

Exactly, thanks for giving away our location. Thank you, now we're going to get doxed and protested and attacked.

Andrew Neil (3:14)

Westminster is a big place.

Francis Foster (3:15)

Yeah.

Andrew Neil (3:16)

And we're right next to Pimlico, as you know.

Francis Foster (3:18)

Exactly.

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Francis Foster (3:22)

Andrew, what a pleasure. We've been meaning to have you on for a long time.

We want to talk to you about the BBC later on. But actually, I think with your experience and with the sort of serious commentary you provide, we'd love to just hear a very broad sweep of your thoughts on actually what is happening in our country.

Andrew Neil (3:42)

Okay. Well, there's a lot happening but not much of it very good.

I mean, I think politics has gone through a major change. The story of 2025 was the rise of the insurgents on the left and the right. Reform doing well, taking a lead in the polls, the Greens coming up fast, causing labor palpitations, overtaking the Lib Dems.

And so by this time last year, the Greens are well ahead of the Lib Dems. Labor's really worried about them. And Reform is ahead in the polls, over 30%. And when they get over 30%, a lot of seats start to fall their way. And that was then. Now here we are a year later, and it's gone into reverse. The Greens have had a bad year, though not as well covered as the bad year that Reform has had, and Mr. Farage in particular, and the problem with a one-man band is that the one man has a bad year. Well, if the one man is out of tune, the whole band's out of tune, and that's been a problem for Reform. So you've seen, to my surprise, in a way the reemergence of the two legacy parties.