Alleigha Botner's Search History Said WHAT?!

Tony Brueski (0:01)

This is Hidden Killers Live with Tony Brueski and Robin Dreeke.

Tony Brueski (0:08)

Your thoughts right there is where we will continue it. For two days, the prosecution used Alleigha Botner to put Caleb Flynn's own words in front of the jury, kill her, hire someone, get rid of her, then the defense stood up, and in under an hour, they made her the story. Emily Smith walked her through the Google searches she ran in three days after Ashley died, got her to say she never believed Caleb was capable of it, and ended by having her confirm that police never searched her apartment, her car, or took her DNA. And we also answered the question, no, she is not under any sort of agreement for testimony or immunity. We were wondering about that yesterday, and the answer is in fact, no, at least according to her testimony on the stand. Let's get into our next clip here, Robin Dreeke, retired FBI Special Agent, Chief of the Counterintelligence Behavioral Analysis Program and Master Class Instructor, of course, always with us. And also Jennifer Coffindaffer, retired FBI Special Agent to help us break all this down. The first thing the defense asks her isn't about Caleb, it's what she typed into Google in the three days after Ashley was killed.

Here's what she had to say.

SPEAKER_3 (1:17)

In the days following Ashley's death, in the three days following, she conducted several internet searches regarding the case, is that correct?

And some of those internet searches included stories of white being murdered and no suspect found, is that correct?

Yes. On the, and that was approximately on February 17th, to your knowledge? Probably. On approximately February 19th, you searched homicides in America that still remain unsolved. Yes. Following that, more recent homicides in America that still remain unsolved.

Jennifer Coffindaffer (2:00)

Yes.

SPEAKER_3 (2:01)

You also searched your own name and Ashley's name. Yes.

Tony Brueski (2:05)

What's she doing there, Jen?

Jennifer Coffindaffer (2:07)

Oh, what she's doing is she wants to do a little Robin Dreeke statistical analysis.

SPEAKER_3 (2:13)

Yeah. She wants to speak for her.

Jennifer Coffindaffer (2:17)

Do people get away with this? What are the chances that he's going to get away with this? To my point I made earlier, if he would have gotten away with it and no arrest ever made and it went unsolved, I'm telling you, they'd be tripping through the tulips.

I think she just wanted to see how often this can happen.

Tony Brueski (2:35)

Robin?

Robin Dreeke (2:36)

Yeah, fair.

Tony Brueski (2:37)

Is that what's going on right there?

Robin Dreeke (2:39)

Curiosity. She's just following the pattern of what she's been doing the entire time. Researching, trying to figure things out. And I agree with Jen that I think if this had gone that way and she could rationalize to herself that this wasn't actually Caleb that did it, she'd do selective memory on it and they'd be like Jen said, you know, tipping through the tulips in Barbados.

Tony Brueski (3:03)

They'd be tripping, all right.

Let me ask you guys this. What did you make of her behavioral cues throughout all of the testimony? In a lot of ways, I felt like she was pretty on, ready to answer questions. Boom, boom, boom. I got the answer. But then on very specific ones, specific ones that seemed to surround the murder, there was a lot of moments of, hmm, let me think about that. Let me look off to the sky for a moment to try and find that answer. I found that interesting because number one, you know what you're coming here to testify about, the questions that she seemed to have some of the most difficulty verbalizing her answers to were the obvious ones, were the ones that these are the ones that you're going to get asked. You pretty much know that. But they seem to be like, I was surprised you're asking me that. Why was that?

Is it nervousness? Is it hiding? I mean, I don't know. It seems to me, in other cases, when people do that, we call that deception. Let me go to you first, Robin.

Robin Dreeke (4:15)

I didn't see her deceptive.

I understand. It's why it's been an interesting journey watching her and listening. What I'm seeing is a lot of shame coming out of her and ashamed of what she did. I see a level of self-awareness now that she didn't have them. Granted, the impetus wasn't because she had an epiphany on her own, it was because she was caught. I think her trance was broken about what she was doing. I think they're both in some sciatic trance that they gave each other through this mutual addiction. But I think once it broke, I think she became very ashamed of what she did.