Alex Murdaugh — Harpootlian Said He Passed. The Judge Said He FAILED.

SPEAKER_1 (0:01)

This is Hidden Killers Live with Tony Brueski and Robin Dre.

Tony Brueski (0:08)

The DNA was not the only fight in court the other day with Alex Murdaugh. Both sides spent two hours accusing each other of hiding evidence, losing evidence and lying.

And the judge had something to say about all of it. Let's take a look at what they had to say there in court.

Dick Harpootlian (0:30)

January 17th, six days earlier, they gave us 1,300 files, 3.89 gigabytes of data. On January 18th, they gave us 5.22 gigabytes of data, 17 folders.

January 20th, three days before the trial, they gave us 73 gigabytes of data. Now, that's the Thursday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday, basically, before we're picking a jury. We're in the middle of moving to Walterboro, setting up a shop. We planned to do that all that week, and they dump all of this on us. We tried to look through it, but immediately we're picking a jury and then off to the races, and we're having to deal with witnesses. So, be frank with you, much of it didn't get looked at until after trial. I mean, it's just we did not.

Tony Brueski (1:20)

Is this Harpootlian crying wolf? Because I know Creighton Waters is going to say, we've already given it to you several times over. We can't help it if you can't figure out where it is, or can't find it, or lost it, or forgot it. I mean, this has been kind of a back and forth for a little while, but it makes for a good sound bite if that's the only piece you're looking at. Jen, what are your thoughts?

SPEAKER_4 (1:40)

Well, first of all, what the hell is a gigabate?

Tony Brueski (1:45)

It's a new standard of measurement, only available in South Carolina.

It's like South Korea. Things are a little different there. Or North Korea. Things are a little different there.

SPEAKER_4 (1:59)

Okay. So yes, I agree with you, Tony. They are going to say we gave it to you and you all couldn't find it, because you were looking for baits instead of bites.

I don't know what to say, but I don't think that the prosecution is going to get in any trouble for any of this. I think everything has been turned over, but I do agree it's probably a large amount, and they just haven't had the time to look for it, and it's smoke and mirrors in my opinion.

SPEAKER_5 (2:28)

Also, it's interesting, one of the comments in the chat also said about a third party, and the probability of Alex giving him up or her up if there was someone else involved, and it's still pretty low even if there was someone, and the stats say it as well as snitches get stitches behind bars, and regardless, he's staying behind bars, so even if there was a third party. He's not going to say anything.

Tony Brueski (2:53)

Yeah, I mean, again, this whole hearing has felt very much like, let's see what sticks. That piece of spaghetti didn't work very well, so they go on to this one. This is the next piece of spaghetti that they're throwing at the wall, and this is basically questioning the accuracy of what was testified to in the first trial about the 720 blackout rounds that were used, in the 300 blackout rounds that were used in the execution of To Kill Maggie. In the first trial, the defense says, in the first trial, rather, the state's experts testified he'd never seen a 300 blackout round used.

Speaking to its scarcity, but they were on the property, so it's scarce, it's on the property. How odd is that, that a scarce bullet's being used with weapons from the owner at the property where the crime occurs. The defense says, eh, they're not quite as scarce as you might think.

Dick Harpootlian (3:52)

The agent testified he had never seen a blackout. This is in 2023, a blackout round involved in a murder. That's his testimony. They put him up as the expert in this area.

And the ability of SLED to put together the list that we want, and all you have to do is look at Mr. Waters' response. He says, since January of 2021, SLED has entered 720, 300 blackout cartridge cases into IBIS, including evidence from this case. 300 blackout has been identified as the second most popular cartridge for AR chambering in the United States. SLED gets 300 blackout cartridge cases on weekly, if not daily, basis these days.

Tony Brueski (4:42)

You think Alec got drunk or high before going to court?

You think he had a gummy? Because that's the face of someone who had a gummy. That's like, whoa.