AI’s Rocky Road to Wall Street, Hegseth’s Macho Military, and Trump’s AI Safety Theater

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It'll be Elizabeth Warren all day long doing a proctology to examine them.

Scott Galloway (1:44)

She'd be up there with a plastic glove on one hand telling Dario Amode to put his elbows on the table.

Kara Swisher (1:53)

Hi, everyone. This is Pivot from New York Magazine and the Vox Media Podcast Network. I'm Kara Swisher.

Scott Galloway (1:58)

And I'm Scott Galloway.

Kara Swisher (1:59)

Scott, you're still in Los Angeles. I came and went to Los Angeles and now I'm back in New York. I was there for a New York Minute.

Scott Galloway (2:05)

I heard.

Kara Swisher (2:06)

I interviewed Ari Emanuel at a live interview.

Scott Galloway (2:09)

I heard the book is good. You liked it.

Kara Swisher (2:11)

It's great. I like it. It was an interesting time. And then I did another big interview. I can't say with who it is, but it's going to be a lot.

SPEAKER_5 (2:19)

It's a lot is happening.

Kara Swisher (2:20)

Oh, yeah.

Scott Galloway (2:21)

I'm sure it's someone huge. But actually, we've got bigger news. Kara Swisher, and we did not rehearse this. By the way, you can tell it's O'Dark.

Kara Swisher (2:29)

Did I win the Pulitzer? What?

Scott Galloway (2:31)

No, more importantly, by the way, it's O'Dark 100 I had a couple of drinks last night. How deep is my voice right now?

Kara Swisher (2:39)

Yeah, it sounds good. You sound like Elizabeth Holmes. Go ahead.

Close.

Scott Galloway (2:44)

I'm so real. That's just freaky.

SPEAKER_7 (2:49)

Yeah, it is freaky.

Scott Galloway (2:51)

Kara is on the Washingtonians, 300 most powerful woman in Washington. What?

Kara Swisher (2:59)

I am?

Scott Galloway (2:59)

You didn't see that? No.

Well, it's in our Pivot chat.

Kara Swisher (3:03)

Are there 300 powerful women in Washington?

Scott Galloway (3:06)

Yeah, except that's not the news.

Kara Swisher (3:08)

What?

Scott Galloway (3:08)

It says Kara Swisher, Kara Swisher co-host with Scott Galloway, the Pivot podcast. So, I am now one of the most powerful women in Washington. And I knew this was coming because-

SPEAKER_6 (3:21)

You are a lady.

Scott Galloway (3:22)

I got comped of she's played at the Hey Adams, Ask Around, it's true. I knew it was coming.

And I just want to give advice to all young men about how to become the most powerful woman in Washington. One, first and foremost, just get proximity to a terrifying lesbian with sunglasses.

SPEAKER_6 (3:39)

Excellent.

Kara Swisher (3:39)

Excellent. Good choice.

Scott Galloway (3:40)

And also, it's just pretty obvious.

I sat on my back at the Washington elevator at the Washington Park High. I took three Viagra, hit the elevator up, and I broke the glass ceiling, Kara. I broke the glass ceiling.

Kara Swisher (3:56)

I love how you turn my victories into your own dick jokes.

SPEAKER_6 (3:58)

It's all about me. I just like-

Kara Swisher (3:59)

No, just dick jokes, and that's what happens.

Scott Galloway (4:01)

I just like to say, Justice Sotomayor. Okay, does she host a podcast? I am more powerful than Justice Sotomayor.

Kara Swisher (4:09)