AI Video Is Eating The World — Olivia and Justine Moore, a16z

**Wix** (0:05)
Hey, everyone, welcome to the Latent Space Podcast. This is Alessio, partner and CTO at Decibel, and I'm joined by my cohost, Wix, founder of Small AI.

**Olivia Moore** (0:12)
Hello, hello.

**Alessio** (0:12)
We have a very special double guest episode with Justine and Olivia Moore. Welcome.

**Justine Moore** (0:18)
Hi, thanks for having us. We're excited to be here.

**Wix** (0:20)
I think you're the first twins on the pod.

**Olivia Moore** (0:23)
We're honored. We love that.

**Alessio** (0:25)
Olivia, are you wearing glasses so it's easier to differentiate a set like a thing?

**Olivia Moore** (0:29)
No, we have opposite, even though we're identical twins, we have opposite vision problems. So I actually need glasses and Justine doesn't. But it would be nice. Yeah, sometimes we think we should do name tags on our foreheads or something, but I think the glasses work just as well.

**Alessio** (0:43)
Both of you are partners at Andries and Horowitz, but also I think we're actually talking to you in the capacity of you're just very involved in generative media. We don't cover enough. I can see a change. Latent Space itself was started because of stable diffusion.
Then there was improvements in image generators for a while. You can see recraft is better than blah, and then Black Forest Labs goes on and blah. But they're all just image generators. I think video gen, and then also those music gen for a while. Video gen, I think, is the current thing, and we really wanted to do an episode on that, I guess. Also, I think the last piece that I will preview is that we really wanted to start using it for Latent Space itself. So we could use some help, we could use some overview of what people are doing. We can take it from there. I have some of your tweets pulled up, but I don't know how you want to start.

**Justine Moore** (1:38)
It's really funny, actually. I got into generative media too, with StableDiffusion, and I think it was September 2022-ish, and it's grown so quickly since then. Olivia and I talk about this all the time because it used to be that our friends in creative fields would look at the AI image and video generation and be like, I'm not worried about that, or I can't use it in my job. This is just a silly side thing. And then I think starting earlier this year, we started getting a few of them being like, maybe I should learn a little bit more about how these work and how to use them. And now we'll literally have people coming over to our house on the weekend so we can give tutorials and walkthroughs of like, here's the tools, here's how you use them, that sort of thing.

**Olivia Moore** (2:24)
I would say we've seen the same thing happen on, I mean, if you've been on TikTok or Reels or YouTube Shorts recently, in the past week, probably 90 percent of your feed is AI generated video. Like even two months ago, it was like that little orange cat animation that was super popular. And then it was the Italian Brainrot characters, but it was just a few people making AI video. And now there's like, I would guess, hundreds of thousands of people making and publishing AI video, which is just awesome.

**Wix** (2:51)
Sorry, I just want to clarify. Are the Italian Brainrot made by Italians? Or is the descent, like, are the names, I haven't quite figured that out. I haven't been able to trace it down to the origins of the Italian Brainrot.

**Justine Moore** (3:04)
It's complicated because it's a decentralized meme that people are taking and remixing. I actually looked into this question as well. And I think the answer is no, it did not come from Italians, but someone early on thought the names sounded vaguely Italian, and so they called it Italian Brainrot.

**Wix** (3:23)
We're innocent. That's all I wanted to know. That's why I guess we're not. It's not our fault.

**Alessio** (3:28)
So I didn't even know about the Italian Brainrot, but I wanted to, like, kind of show and tell a little bit as well, so that our viewers can watch along. So this is it, apparently?

**Olivia Moore** (3:37)
Exactly. So this is essentially it was kind of a universe of characters. Started decentralized, like one person made a few characters, and then a couple other people on TikTok added their own characters to the universe, and the best ones became kind of like Canon.

**Justine Moore** (3:51)
And they started as images is probably important to clarify, and then people started animating them into video.